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Posted: 03rd June 2008 11:44

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Martin Johnson 2008

Martin Johnson: Muddled thinking?

Thirteen stitches for Charlie Hogson, a blow to the head for Toby Flood and Dan Hipkiss limping off in the final was a worry ahead of the New Zealand tour but maybe not quite as big a concern as the replacement selection of Hipkiss for Danny Cipriani originally was.

It passed almost unnoticed when Cipriani was injured but this was a blunder, no doubt about it. The events of the Barbarians match illustrated the potential damage.

England are effectively heading towards a Test series in New Zealand with three near identikit outside-centres and one specialist fly-half.

If Charlie Hodgson takes an early knock on Saturday, England's hopes are likely to be dashed within minutes of the whistle being blown on the new regime of Martin Johnson. Whether Hodgson survives unscathed or not, this selection is not so much a fresh change of direction as a naive one.

Johnson has long argued that he alone, in his former role as the great leader and his present rookie capacity as manager, is not the answer. The muddled thinking behind last week's selection gives substance to his protestations.

His rationale for the call-up of the Leicester centre was that England had good cover at fly-half with Charlie Hodgson, Olly Barkley and Toby Flood, so he opted for the muscular, side-stepping skills of Hipkiss.

But the reality is that England, after this decision, have no Test-match-standard cover for the critical fly-half position, and one wasted player who will get nowhere near either Test match.

Ill-conceived

In all ways it is an ill-conceived plan, predicated on the theory that the Bath and Newcastle inside-centres have experience enough to manage the position. At a certain level this is just about the case but New Zealand are some way beyond that.

It is incredulous to think that because Barkley has enjoyed a superb season for Bath, he will succeed wherever England play him. Either Johnson has not watched Barkley and Flood sufficiently, or he does not grasp the details of the midfield.

There is a world of difference between the fly-half and inside-centre positions. The skills required are similar but the vision of the game has to be far broader from ten. The inside-centre position is the auxiliary decision-maker and hugely important but unless a team has a rock solid structure to its game (as Johnson's England did in his latter days as captain) the risk of the side's shape being undermined by a fly-half with a narrow vision is too great to risk contemplating as this selection does.

England effectively travel with three scrum-halves, three hookers and one fly-half. Ask Johnson if England should tour with just the one specialist hooker and a couple of props who can hook in an emergency and you would be dismissed as an idiot, yet here is Johnson taking an identical gamble behind the scrum.

Barkley is the likely choice ahead of Flood, whose form floundered with Newcastle as his domestic season meandered towards a sluggish end. Yet the Bath man has proved time and again that his position is categorically twelve.

Bath with Butch James at fly-half and Barkley at inside-centre were an infinitely superior side to the one which made do with the Englishman at ten when James was injured. There was still the seasonal trademark Barkley break but not the steady control of the South African World Cup-winning pivot.

Imbalanced

Not only is the failure to select a specialist replacement a risk for the team, it is also hard on both Barkley and Flood.

In training neither will be able to focus purely on his specific demands, frequently switching to ten in the eventuality of a Hodgson injury. When both should be developing their specific positional games, England are going to be distracting them with the 'what if?' thoughts of being utility men.

In Riki Flutey's acceptance speech as Players' Player of the Season at the PRA awards last Wednesday, he said, "In my younger days I was stuck in a utility position". Specialism has allowed him to develop from eye-catching cover for Wellington to England's player of the season; Johnson's decision to opt for Hipkiss may force Barkley, Flood or both back into that utility role which has sunk so many careers.

It would have been better if Johnson had plumped for his former Tigers teammate, Andy Goode, whose knowledge of the position would have helped England to at least maintain their structure in the event of an injury to Hodgson. Either that, or take a punt with the undoubted talent of Ryan Lamb (who admittedly looked ready for anything but a bone-jarring trip to New Zealand in the devastating wake of Gloucester's defeat last weekend.)

The England manager pointed to the current form of Hipkiss as a reason for the imbalanced selection but if he seriously does not believe a specialist fly-half is important, there remains the issue of choosing another centre whose assets are primarily of a muscular nature. Just being a side-stepper as opposed to a straight runner does not add much to England's variety at thirteen.

The more cerebral nature of Fraser Waters' game would have been a varied option and, on form, the Wasps man heads any current list of English centres.

Martin Johnson mastered the art of captaincy but he starts afresh as a selector. There are no guarantees.

A new road for Johnson beckons as the old one came to an end for Lawrence Dallaglio. Every bit as significant as Johnson, the last line of this week's column is congratulations to Wasps for their splendid achievement this season, and to the great eight for his mighty career.

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STUART BARNES ANSWERS YOUR EMAIL...

Stuart. So with Saturday's GP final we have had another major game with uncontested scrums. Why not change the law so that the team who is unable to contest scrums always concedes the put in? Best Wishes, Bob Poynter. Collingham, Notts

STUART REPLIES: Bob. Why not have an eighth dedicated scrum replacement who is only allowed on the pitch in the event of an 'unfortunate' scenario as occured Saturday. This seems a straightforward way of dealing with the dissatisfaction of uncontested scrums.

Hi Stuart. Do you think there is an inferiority complex associated with England going to NZ? England have appeared in the last two World Cup finals and NZ haven't gotten close.... and yet Rob Andrew talking on Sky Sports News, talks about possibly winning only one test! (Rob backs this up by saying "...England have only won twice in NZ in 100 years..." you know!) Shouldn't the attitude be that England are going to try and win both tests? Surely NZ are there for the taking...? Half of the World Cup team have gone and a bunch of rookies are waiting for a rampaging England. I am sure when NZ come north to play England and other Home Nations they are not thinking "lets pinch a test or two" they want to win every one of them! Why can't England think like that when playing two tests in NZ? Best regards, Nick Owens, Leeds.

STUART REPLIES: Nick, I don't see how England can have an inferiority complex anymore re. The All Blacks. That was the case when I toured this great rugby country in 1985 (and could have won a test had our kicker got his boots out of the Christchurch mud, ahem. Having beaten them in Wellington in 2003 and with a fine home record this England team has a chance if its pack rises to the challenge - despite some big absentees behind the scrum - if it truly believes it can win. It ain't like the team that toured South Africa last summer so let's see no excuses from Rob Andrew and the management.

Stuart, With the additions of Ben Foden, Neil Best, and a host of other new signings, it would appear that Northampton have improved their squad ahead of next year's Premiership return. The question is.. have they done enough to be competitive? I do have faith that Jim Mallinder will lead the Saints out of the woods relatively quickly if he remains at the helm and is not tempted away by the RFU. Regards, Dean, Atlanta, GA.

STUART REPLIES: Dean, I have a gentleman's side bet with Dewi that the Saints will finish in the top half of the table next season. I am looking forward to returning to the Gardens after a year's absence. It is one of the best grounds in the country with a team that will be exciting. I am keen to watch Chris Ashton whose absence from the Saxons tour makes me wonder whether England are manned with selectors possessed with an imagination. This bloke is the reason why A teams exist...

Have a good week, I am getting over a slice of jet lag as I write but nothing a good pinot noir will not cure. Off to watch the All Blacks begin their next four-year build up towards another World Cup...oh dear

See you,

Stuart

Comments

John Patrick says...

England have made the last 2 WC finals - and? Did they win them? No. Fact is the AB's have had it over in England 29 times in 34 matches, the last test a record win at Twickers by NZ, 46-20 in 06. Lions series in 05 had a lot of English players, with an English coach - and what was the score then? Ah yes, thrashed 3-0. England will offer excuses that a few backs are out when they lose, again, on Saturday. Well, half the AB's WC squad of 30 have left. So you're point is England fans?

Posted 08:52 12th June 2008

Mark Rushton says...

Hi Stuart, England I don't think have an inferiority complex against NZ.They instead seam to have pre maid excusses up.If they don't do well with a under strength squad.They is no such thing as under strength any more.There is that much international rugby being played these day's.It's the best team who is playing on the day not the best we could come up with. England surprised the world last year in the World cup .That all came down to attitute.To b a great team you must be able to win away from twickers! Then people will take England seriously. Mark Auckland

Posted 01:11 9th June 2008

Daniel Bracken says...

Stuart, have you forgotten that Butch James was infact a 12 who's become a 10? Whilst I concur that Barkley is a better 12 that a 10 his all round class would make him a beter alternative than the option Goode provides and as you said, Lamb looked short of the required standard. If Barkley is required at 10 I think you'll have a lot of back tracking to do. Good shout on Waters though, he should definately have been considered more than he was

Posted 20:31 8th June 2008

Nancy Demko says...

Why has Jonny Wilkinson been written off as a fly-half? He may be out of form, but he does has the experience and knowledge of international play at the highest level.

Posted 18:03 8th June 2008

Craig Stewart says...

Stuart, I have to agree that England should feel inferior for the mere fact that England have only won twice in 100 years. You have to admit that is a poor record. I agree the mentality has to change but statistics are there to be seen. The constant harping back to one game in 2003 is proof enough to a problem. The game was 5 years ago, surely England need to win a few more times than that?

Posted 16:04 6th June 2008

Shaun Mccunnell says...

Why does this continual discussion about players and positions never really address the real problem with England RFU ? because they aren't the problem ! until we sort out the structure of rugby from the grass roots upwards all the way to HQ we will do nothing but have this same debate every time a tour,6nations or World Cup comes round !

Posted 13:04 6th June 2008

Roger Maidment says...

Do you think that Shaun Edwards will ever be part of the England coaching?

Posted 08:36 6th June 2008

Nathan Rogers says...

Okay so i am half South African and half english and 18-played rugby all my life Therefore i love making comparisons in skill and attitude between the english and the south africans and i have come to the conclusion that the English teams attitude is totally wrong watch the super 14 and the tri nations the teams are bursting with confidense and many a time will put a kick into the corner rather than take those 3 points because they are confident of scoring or because they have the killer mentality ... but england have this play safe mentality ... where they go for goal rather than going for the points and when they get ahead they dont go in for the kill and thats why the public are getting annoyed ... This play attractive rugby nonsense doesnt come from chosing a player and sticking him into a team ...it comes from confident players that are confident of what theyre doing and with whom theyre doing it with Does anybody agree?? Yours Sincerely Nate

Posted 16:18 5th June 2008

Phil Lewis says...

Apologies if this has been covered but what rules will this test be played under the new ones NZ players have adopted or the old ones?

Posted 08:34 5th June 2008

Matthew Rhodes says...

Is it just me or is what Paul Sackey did against Leicester in the Premiership final where Harry Ellis chipped through and Sackey merely patted the ball out dead without making a real effort to catch it illegal?

Posted 15:03 4th June 2008

Steve Parry says...

Stuart, Are you in agreement with the 23 new experimental Laws which take effect this coming season. The game has already improved immensely over the last 2 seasons and as retained its structure. With these new laws I see it becoming more like Rugby League.You have not said which side of the fence you sit on For or against. I read your comments regarding the Npton Saints. You must have had a few too many bottles. When the Saints were a forcefull side they had players like Pagel, Mendez, Hines, Rodber, Hunter, Cohen, Dawson etc I dont see those quality players being signed at the moment. If the front 5 are capable of winning there own ball and pinching a few from the opposition then they can compete in all areas of the pitch. They do not have a front five that can compete with the likes of Sale, Wasps, London Irish etc. The boat for a front 5 has left the harbour ? Still it would be good to see you in the local when you come to town .... i will buy you a pint or 3 Steve Npton

Posted 10:18 4th June 2008

Alan Woodland says...

Dear Stuart. As a Newcastle supporter I have no bias against Wasps. However, in the recent final I did feel that messesers McGeechan, Edwards and the No.8 whose name I forget were extremely sharp with their interpretation of the laws of the game. AIt became obvious that the team going forward in a period of pressure were penalised by having to take uncontested scrums as the opposition replaced a prop with one of the best defensive No6's in the business. I know its a professional game, but it did remove the gloss off a deserved victory. Again I stress I was a very interested neutral who enjoyed the game, but remain slightly disillusioned by the 'at best sharp' practice. Any comments ?

Posted 10:03 4th June 2008

Geoffrey Vallance says...

Absolutely spot on again Barnsey!!

Posted 09:04 4th June 2008

Dave Gregersen says...

I have to agree with you Mr Barnes, Barkley and Flood are fine inside centres but neither are flyhalves. I would have thrown Ryan Lamb in at the deep end. Andy Goode is a good player with a dynamite boot but if England are to continue the good work of the Ireland game they need spark. Cipriani gave that to England and Lamb can do the same. He makes breaks, kicks well, does the unexpected but most of all he can put players into space an d the one thing England have is pace outside. I for one would rather see England move forward and lose by 20 points than lose by 1 and not move forward. Its a mistake from 2003 that we didn't develop quickly enough a squad for 4 years time.

Posted 08:57 4th June 2008

Shaun Gardener says...

The decision to select Hipkiss at the time of selection seemed a fair one! it seems harsh on Johnson that only since the injuries suffered to Hodgson, Flood and Hipkiss has brought up such debate. Lamb should be brought into the squad, it will be of valuable experience to him - it's a shame Geraghty doesnt seem to be in the picture in terms of selection, closest thing we have to a Giteau type player. On a positive note it will be good to see Varndell out in NZ, and Waldouck played really well at the weekend- picking good running lines and always pulling in 2 defenders in the tackle. It bodes well that some of the younger players will be getting an oppurtunity against some of the best in the world.

Posted 20:57 3rd June 2008

Mike Ward says...

Stuart its interesting that in discussing England's potential problems in the 10/12 area you mentioned a possible solution.As a Wasps fan I'm delighted that Flutey's contribution has been recognised by his peers.He has linked superbly with Danny all season and was much missed when out injured.i know there was talk before the Six Nations of whether he would be available for England but if i were Johnno I'd be picking up the phone to find out!

Posted 20:17 3rd June 2008

Ross Chipperton says...

While I agree with some of your points, your logic does not hold up in some of your points. When you say that Bath did not play as well when James was injured, is it not more likely that they did not play as well due to the fact that did not have the duo working in combination rather than the fact that Barkley was playing at fly half. Also you say that Barkley and Flood are both inside centres and do not have enough experience as 10's but both started therir careers in this position, and probably Floods best game for England was in the 10 shirt against France in the 2007 6N to deny France the Grand Slam... hardly a no pressure game. Realistically there is no point taking Ryan Lamb for 2 reasons, firstly as you mentioned after Gloucesters defeat he did not look ready for a tour to NZ, and second he still lacks the controlling presence of other GP fly halfs despite his clear attacking brilliance at times. As for Goode, he would only be taken on this tour for this tours sake, afterwards he will not be in the squad and is clearly not one for the future so not really worth taking him just for the sake of taking another fly half. Well thats my opinion anyway!!!

Posted 20:06 3rd June 2008

Mark Eastwood says...

After watching the Premiership and the Heiniken cup avidly this season i'm positive (like you are Stuart) that we have the players to beat NZ in a test or two. Only a couple of weeks ago there was lip smacking optimism over these two games, and the team to face NZ in the first test will contain at best 3 or 4 of the guys that started the Baa Baa's game. My biggest concern is with coaching set up going over there and the message of negativity that seems to be pumped into the England team by Wells and Ford. The Premiership has shown what good coaching can bring out of our players, please god do not fill these guys with fear of failure, but give them the confidence to play a positive game. Then we might have some thing to smile about come June 21st.

Posted 16:42 3rd June 2008

Jasper Neame says...

Barnsey, wise word's indeed. I fear that this is going to be another tour from hell. On utility player- what are your thoughts on Mathew Taite? i thought after a great world cup he has been messed around at international and club level, when he could have really kicked on. Jasper

Posted 15:59 3rd June 2008

Adam Jones says...

Good comments there Barnesy - "utility" players are not exactly ideal heading down under to New Zealand to face the crunching specialists of Carter, Nonu, and Smith in the midfield. I wonder if the powers that be will regret their hasty decisions after watching the NZ v Ireland game at the weekend! On the subject of "utility" players, I witnessed the abject England performance on Sunday - can someone PLEASE explain to me why we are still relying on players in the creative spine of the team that have categorically proven themselves to not make the grade in the Premiership, in poor teams that have not pitted themselves against the best in Europe, let alone the world?? And why, again, were the 10 and 12 standing some 10-15 metres behind the gain line? Carter and McCaw must be crying with laughter into their cornflakes.

Posted 13:11 3rd June 2008

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