Mike Atherton - Sky Sports Expert

Right to shed Fred

Flintoff still needs to prove his fitness before Test return

Posted: 03rd July 2008 12:37

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Andrew Flintoff April 2008

Flintoff: not ready to return

There is no place for Andrew Flintoff in the squad for South Africa, but that was to be expected really.

The selectors have given enough clues in recent weeks and having been down at Hove for Lancashire's game with Sussex, I didn't see one of them in the stands.

It was live on Sky Sports of course, but the fact that they weren't in attendance suggests the decision was already made.

And I do think it's the right decision. Flintoff's ankle does seem fine and stood up well at Hove, but that was his only four-day game in five weeks since the lay-off.

He needs more miles on the clock and to prove he can withstand the rigours of the five-day game before being considered for the England Test side. It's not just that ankle either, it's the side strain as well.

Flintoff needs to make sure he's toughened up, match-hardened if you like and although it is irrelevant in the scheme of Test cricket, the ICC Champions Trophy in September, will be perfect for him.

I didn't - and I don't think anyone else did - expect any changes from the New Zealand series, but there will be one or two walking out at Lord's next Thursday looking over their shoulders a little.

The two who really spring to mind are Ian Bell and Paul Collingwood. They will be under particular pressure because Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara keep scoring runs and that England middle order hasn't been firing.

Experienced

They are both experienced cricketers and have been part of a winning England side, which will stand them in good stead.

They have been around long enough that the transition from the one-day game - where they were symptomatic of England's failings - should be no problem whatsoever.

It shouldn't be hard getting their heads around the switch to batting for long periods of time after playing aggressively. England will have three full days to prepare for this is as well, so there can be no excuses.

There were some suggestions that the wicket-keeping spot might have brought a change, but I think Tim Ambrose has done alright so far and now has a full Test series and a full-one day series under his belt.

Chris Tremlett will be the one to miss out of the 12 and in naming the same side for six Tests in a row England will set a new record. You have to go back to 1884 to find the last time they fielded the same side for five in row, so this is something new.

That is because they have been winning. Not convincingly, but winning nonetheless.

I wouldn't get too carried away though, because England have come up against a pretty mediocre New Zealand side in their last six matches. They have done alright, nothing more.

Challenge

And they will certainly be given a thorough test by this South Africa side.

First and foremost they have genuine pace in their attack, something New Zealand don't. Secondly they have batsmen who are capable of scoring big Test match hundreds, like Graeme Smith and Jacques Kallis.

Thirdly they are a much, much tougher side. When England push South Africa, they are not going to fall down as readily as New Zealand did. South Africa are simply a much tougher challenge altogether.

England were pretty awful in the one-dayers, I have to say, and as decent a side as the Kiwis are, they are no world-beaters and England should be beating them at home.

Yet they could have lost 4-1 in the end and it was frustrating for all involved.

But there shouldn't be a hangover going into the five-day game. Michael Vaughan was not involved of course and having separate captains does help, but when it comes to Tests, England are a far more settled and confident outfit.

Comments

Daniel Dowd says...

Freddie needs to play... I admit, being new to the game, (cricket is relatively new to us here in New York)... You guys know more about it than I do... But Freddie adds so much more of the super-star & legend status to the game... Besides, Collingwood has basically sucked for quite some time now... (what's his problem anyway?)... Having Freddie in the lineup automatically adds mystery & fun to the game...

Posted 03:02 14th July 2008

Darran Nicholas says...

I have to say that I am eager to see Freddie back out on the field for his beloved England. As Bumble said in his column, he is a fine bowler, and when he is on form (thats quite often), he is a truly terrifying prospect for any batsman. However, I can't see how after one 4 day match, and a practice match for Lancashire reserves he can be ready for a test match against such a side as South Africa; he will always bring great morale to a side when he's in form, but on the flip side, if he falters, how damaging could that be to the side? For me this is a huge series for both Bell and Collingwood, perhaps more so Collingwood, as I still don't see his one-day captaincy as concrete. I do wonder however, if we will see them step up, and rise to the challenge. These are after all, 2 quality players, there is no question there. Bell has an amazing ability to produce an awesome innings, with text-book strokes like many other players can only dream of, and Colly is by no means a slouch with the bat, never mind in the field, his determination and gutsiness is famed. 'Quality is permanent, form is temporary'. What concerns me is that for a long time I thought Collingwood was in the one day side for a general all round ability, not class as such, and then got into a very strong test side and showed some of that form, granted, he showed this form for a while. However, it's a long while since that sort of form has been shown. I do still believe that Bell has what it takes, it is merely a mental issue, we have at least seen signs of Bell's class, and perhaps, if he were dropped for a couple/few matches, he might realise he needs something more to kick on and become the truly World-Class player that he has the potential to be. He has some fine strokes and a wonderful technique, if he could just apply it at the right time, he could be a national hero. I also hoe that Colly is what I've always hoped he may be, a national treasure.

Posted 02:44 8th July 2008

Chris Grathwohl says...

I agree with Ed 100% If the pitch isn't perfect for swing bowling then were stuck with 3 bowlers who''l be almost identical in their attack. Sure Broad hits the deck hard for his first 6-9 overs after that his pace drops down to the lower 80's and if England have to bowl for 2 consectutive days he'll be in the high 70's nothing that will concern South Africa's batsmen. I agree you need consistency in a side but your first priority should be fielding a Team who'll take 20 wickets. This will be a one-sided affair I'm afraid, and it won't be leaning towards our side (England). I have nothing against Siddy but he is obviously hurt (back) and it has affected the last 3 matches he's been involved in, Jimmy is Jimmy, Broad is still very young and inexperienced and I see him falling into the same scenario as Plunkett, Mahmood, and Lewis to name a few, the selectors rush him into the International arena, they get found out by the batsmen mainly due to their lack of experience, and get burned out and dropped. I would of thought the selectors would of learned something by now with rushing young bowlers and not letting them develope their game in County. There is no reason that 1 or 2 of the following are not in the Team - Harmie, Hoggie, Freddie, S. Jones, or even Mahmood who is coming off 2 consecutive 5 wicket hauls. The Kiwis had our bowlers flat out figured out by the ODI's, throw in a couple of fielding errors and there goes the match. I really do not see why the bowlers aren't being rotated to avoid injury and/or burnout, the quality of the top 10 Bowlers in England match up against any team and it would keep the opposition guessing if they'd rotate them. The way selections have been going any team we face already know there going to face 2 swing bowlers and 1 young inexperienced medium to fast pace bowler, makes it real easy to prepare for to say the least.

Posted 23:20 4th July 2008

Joe Lunn says...

Ed, We may have three similar paced bowlers but thats where the similaraities end. Broad is a hit the deck bowler who will get the ball to bounce. Sidebottom is a very smart bowler who can change his pace to make any batter feel discomforted and Anderson can bowl a wicket taking ball at any moment regardless of wether the ball is swinging. My biggest fear is that the batters don't get the runs for the bowlers to be able to express themselves. As soon as the bowlers are under pressure because SA have a small total to chase the emphasis of there bowling changes from taking wickets to stopping runs. Which could be very costly for us.

Posted 13:07 4th July 2008

Ed Whyatt says...

The concern I have is not so much with the batting. I expect the top 6 to fire in this series - different opposition, new challenges therefore new concentration I would hope. The bowling worries me because if it doesn't swing we have 3 very similar pace bowlers. They have their places on merit, but we all know what can happen if the conditions are not perfect. Without jumping on the bandwagon, we need one of our serious quicks back and firing - Steyn and Ntini are an awesome opening pair. I just don't think Smith et al will be that fearful of Sideshow and Jimmy Floyd WheresDaStumpz?

Posted 09:38 4th July 2008

Tom C says...

I agree with Michael regarding Ian Bell, he needs to produce something NOW or be dropped. I disagree with the comment that the middle order hasn't been firing. The middle order has been SAVING our skins consistently for a good while now. This is due to the abyssmal display put on by Andrew Strauss. He should have been dropped a long time ago. Forgive me if there's something I don't know about, but why has Robert Key never been given a proper chance?

Posted 08:11 4th July 2008

Tom M says...

Completely agree Michael. The last thing England and Flintoff need is for for him too start the First against South Africa not Fully, and then breaking down with another injurey. It makes more sense that he plays some games for Lancashire, gains some form and proves that he is fully fit to play for Engalnd again. Once he has done that, then he can get bak in that England Team and Lead the bowling attack again

Posted 14:53 3rd July 2008

Ryan Bachoo says...

A case of bad luck maybe, but Freddie is definitely going through some type of a jaded patch. As much as i'm a huge supporter of English cricket and Andrew Flintoff, I must agree with Mike, it is by all means not too early for Freddie to make a come back but he hasn't totally impressed me that he can withstand the rigours of a Test Match. Sure we would all love to see Freddie back out on the field scoring runs and taking wickets but if you look at what has been taking place around English cricket over the last couple weeks, you'd agree with me risking Freddie is last thing we want to do. If you look closely at Paul Collingwood & Ian Bell, they're virtually under immense pressure to score runs or they may very well find there places invaded by Ravi & Owais. With that type of competition going on in the England camp, surely the last thing you want is the skysports media battering Freddie for poor form and questioning the selectors move towards selecting Freddie. As difficult as it is to see Freddie playing First Class cricket, he has to start scoring runs comsistently at county level, he must force the selectors to stop whatever they're doing and go down to Hove to see that he is very much capable of scoring runs and more inportantly or I should say as equally important show that he is fit and ready to work for five days. South Africa is obviously going to be a very much tougher fight than New Zealand were and with England not getting to that 400 mark in there first inning for quite sometime, I think the selectors would be quite wary of playing batsmen who are out of form and can't contribute heavily towards the scoring rate. England has a lot of work to do and if they are to win the series, the batsmen must get there act together and start scoring hundreds. Alastair Cook, Ian Bell and Paul Colingwood has got to start scoring runs or they will be axed and just ask Freddie how tough it is to get back in the team.

Posted 14:50 3rd July 2008

Adam Ray says...

I agree completely about the selection prediction and how challenging SA will be compared with NZ. I can't say I am too hopeful for he first test, I think our bowling attack will be hit hard unless Anderson has a good match and our batting apart from Strauss and Pietersen seems to fail too often. I think we needed Flintoff or even someone like Simon Jones to give our bowling attack that extra fire power and experience, as face it we cannot rely on Sidebottom to keep getting us wickets, and we cannot rely on Anderson even though when on form he is easily one of the top bowlers in the world. Jones has pace, accuracy and wicket taking ability, something our bowlers, in my opinion are bit lacking of in comparison. When a bowler keeps knocking over sides constantly in county cricket and has a record like Jones does in the Ashes, you have to wonder how long it will take for the selectors to give someone a chance. Anyway I believe the selections were kept the same for one main reason: they wanted the record of being the first time the same XI have been chosen for 6 straight tests, that I feel saved Collingwood and/or Bell and I feel if they didn't have that record, they may have gone with 4 seamers instead of 3and chosen Jones or Flintoff.... or at least they should have.

Posted 14:44 3rd July 2008

Farhan Majid says...

Not convinced that the current England line up has what it takes to take on South Africa. South Africa are not going to capitulate like NZ did in the last two tests, Englands batting is also going to be put under a lot more pressure and based on the NZ series, omens aren't great. Bell and Collingwood need to step up as you can't carry people in a series like this. I predict England to fall behind and then hopefully the likes of Flintoff and maybe even Jones coming back and it being again a 1 match series either way.

Posted 13:09 3rd July 2008

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