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Posted: 29th April 2008 14:42

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Trent Barret: debate on his form

The sport of Rugby League embraces change far quicker and more readily than most others in the British Isles.

Just over a decade ago we shifted to an American style system of Play-Offs to determine the Champion Team. It was ridiculed by some but was quickly adopted by most to the stage that we have had over 70,000 at the last two Grand Finals.

The concept of taking all six games from the engage Super League competition to the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff was a brave one. Would anybody attend? Would the teams see it as an exhibition game with a resulting drop in quality? Could the sponsors feel satisfied if the event was poorly promoted? Could Rugby League attract any supporters from Wales? Did the numbers stack up or was it a waste of money?

For a first effort I would say that last year was about a 7 out of 10. There were many things which went well and several others which didn't but that will always happen when you try something as ambitious as this. (Even when the NFL, the richest sporting league in the world, undertake roadshow games not everything goes to plan.)

The action on the pitch did not disappoint with 332 points scored in the six games. Only the closely fought contest between Hull and Hull KR had less than 50 points in it. The aesthetics of the stadium make it look as though the pitch is twice the size of a normal one and we got to see fast flowing movement of the ball.

We had the drama associated with all sporting classics with the last minute victory for Leeds in the last game of the weekend which meant that it would not only go down in Rugby League folklore but would receive massive publicity and be a point of conversation in the workplace for the next few weeks.

This year is now the vital one in determining whether the concept is appreciated by the Rugby League community and if it is to become the third landmark event in the domestic Rugby League calendar. Can Millennium Magic establish itself alongside Wembley and the Grand Final?

I spent some time looking at the attendance figures for the Grand Final since it's inception in 1998. It is interesting that it took five years to become embedded and attract over 60,000.

Crowd figures alone do not tell you the whole story or whether it has been a success or failure but they are the quickest and easiest way in which most people will judge an event like this.

For that reason it is essential that the figures announced in Cardiff are greater than the 32,000 that attended on the Saturday last year and the 26,000 who came to watch the second day's play.

Look out for some great action over the six games that will take place in Cardiff but keep an even closer eye on the crowd. They are the ones who will determine whether the Magic is here to stay.

Now to this week's questions...

Phil, I see that Brian Noble has applied for the job at Catalans Dragons. Is that because he is tired of the wet weathwer up in Wigan or is he genuinely interested. What is your view?
Paul.

PHIL REPLIES: Whatever went on last week was last week's news. Brian Noble has re-signed for Wigan and can return the English/French translation book that he's taken from Wigan Library!

I suppose, just like most players, he was considering his options and testing his market value. He is a professional coach coming to the end of his contract. You can add to the mix that he now has a new boss, Noble was lured to Wigan by Maurice Lindsay and Dave Whelan. He now works for Ian Lenegan.

The biggest dilemma now for Wigan is not who the coach is but how they are going to replace Trent Barrett if he leaves at the end of this season.

Hi Phil, It comes as no surprise that Trent Barrett wants to return home. His performances this season have been ordinary at best, nowhere near the way he played last season. He's clearly had other things on his mind. Last season he failed to deliver in the big games often enough for me. If he goes now, who do you think Wigan will get to replace him this season. I'd love us to get Michael Dobson back and partner him with Danny Orr, a player Wigan shouldn't have released. And what are the chances of Fielden being homesick and asked to be released from his contract. If that happens we may well free up a third of our salary cap and recruit some players who will help to take the team forward.
Danny Norkus (Leigh)

PHIL REPLIES: I must disagree with you Danny about Barrett's performances last year. At times they looked like they had Trent Barrett and 12 disciples and although he couldn't walk on water he did some miraculous things with one ball and 12 mates around him.

It would not surprise me to see Michael Dobson back at the JJB. He hasn't played a first team game for Canberra yet this year and has instead featured four times in their reserve team in the Queensland Cup.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it's fascinating to see how well Danny Orr is playing under Brian McDermott. I've said before that the Wigan number 7 jersey carries the greatest pressure in all of Super League.

Like many Wigan supporters who write in to this website, you feel as though Stuart Fielden's performances have gone backwards since he arrived at the JJB. I don't know how much he is paid but the key to having a successful team nowadays centres around having a more even distribution of the total money available to players.

I don't think that it would be a good long-term move for Wigan to recruit somebody like Darren Lockyer. They would then be in a similar position to the one now with Barrett.

Leeds showed great patience six years ago when they started to introduce Danny McGuire and Rob Burrow. Their patience paid off. If Wigan want to be as strong as Leeds then they need to think long-term.

Phil, Are you in love with Warrington? You insist they can make the Grand Final, and indeed are dark horses to win it. Listen, get your money on a Saints v Leeds repeat, with hopefully a different result this time. Saints were awesome against Warrington, despite being reduced to 15 men, two influential lads in Scully and Maurie, any side would go under losing those two but Kes was unbelievable both in attack, but more importantly in defence which helped us win the game. He is a true leader and we are lucky to have him. When you consider the lads we had out, we matched Warrington and then overpowered them. I can't agree with you on their chances...
Regards
Gary Wilton

PHIL REPLIES: My family and friends think that I love to provoke an argument; I've missed my way in life and should be entering the Debating Championships.

I believe that Warrington have the talent to win the Grand Final, but maybe not the consistency. Last Friday's game was one of the best I've seen this year, along with the Round 2 between St Helens and Warrington at Knowsley Road. St Helens were too strong for the Wolves in the second half, but I would love to know what would have happened had Meli not scored that interception try before half time?

I agree with you about Kieron Cunningham and in the absence of Stevo was asked to select the Man of the Match. Kieron was outstanding, as was one of my tips for England, James Graham.

As we hit the halfway stage in the Engage Super League I am going to start to compile my squad for England's World Cup. Let me know who you think should be in the squad of 24.

Comments

Karl Lelyveld says...

dear PHIL there has been alot of talk about ryan atkins future at wakefield can you please tell us if there is talk about him signing for a big club soon. cheers

Posted 08:40 9th May 2008

John Peers says...

Millennium Stadium Stadium - Condensation and ventilation. The Problem: After 30 minutes of the Saints v Wigan match, the smoke from two small fireworks was still lurking around the roof even with the roof open by approximately 5% at a guess. This is graphic proof of a severe lack of ventilation. It seems the designers were so taken up with the technology of massive roof opening mechanisms that they overlooked a basic fact of physics: Each human being emits approximately 10 pints of water per day via breath and perspiration, so when 30,000 or so are gathered close together, a large quantity just has to go somewhere. As demonstrated over the weekend it has gone into the turf without a natural earth foundation so it stays there. The biggest problem in modern houses is the lack of ventilation leading to excessive condensation being deposited on cool surfaces (eg bathroom cistern or far worse). Ventilation always cures the problem either by force flow or simply by opening windows from time to time. I have worked in this industry so I have experience of dealing with it. Ask any housewife which is the best drying day ; cold and windy or hot and still and she will choose the former. The Solution: Force Ventilate, or better still, JUST OPEN THE ROOF. Sincerely, John Peers.

Posted 19:42 4th May 2008

John Peers says...

Comment about Millennium - Please let's have the roof open, except when it is pouring down. When you gather 30,000+ human bodies in the same cocoon without any appreciable ventilation, it is no wonder that the players cannot stay on their feet. The turf is slippery and the air is like a sauna! Ask any housewife which day will dry the washing best - hot and sultry or cold and windy? She will vote for the windy day every time. Case proven?

Posted 17:02 4th May 2008

David Brown says...

I must agree with Danny Norkus on the subject of Trent Barrett. I will be the first to drool over his performances last season but I feel that his mind is elsewhere. I first noticed at the away game versus Hull FC, he seemed to be playing at half throttle and as a result the rest of the team followed suit and Wigan got out enthused. By the time the hooter had sounded it was too late. This similar feeling came again but this time away to Warrington. I felt Wigan where more than capable of beating both of their opponents, but Barrett wasn't firing and the rest of the team where looked work shy. He is such an inspirational figure that when he does turn up Wigan are a force but they are ordinary without him.

Posted 16:28 3rd May 2008

Don Bateman says...

My England WC Squad. 1.Wellens 2.Gardener. 3.Ellis. 4.Yeaman 5.Raynor 6.Pryce 7.Burrow 8.Fielden 9.Newton 10.Peacock 11.Burgess 12. Morley 13. Sinfield 14.McGuire 15.Graham 16.Westerman 17.JJB 18.Westwood 19.Mathers 20. Gleeson 21. O'Loghlin 22. Sykes

Posted 19:40 2nd May 2008

Richard Whatmough says...

I really hope that some quins players get the recognition that they deserve when the world cup squad is announced. At the moment i dont think there is a better second rower in the country than Rob Purdham. His work rate is amazing and despite not looking that big compared to many forwards he is so hard to put down in the tackle. I also think that Ricki sheriffe is the most improved player in Super league this year and also deserves his chance, instead of the usual suspects that get picked whether they're in form or not

Posted 16:35 2nd May 2008

Mike L says...

1. P Wellens 2. A Gardner 3. P Sykes 4. R Atkins 5. G Raynor 6. L Pryce 7. R Burrow 8. A Lynch 9. T Newton 10. A Morley 11. J Peacock 12. G Ellis 13. K Sinfield 14. J Roby 15. S Burgess 16. J Graham 17. J Jones-Buchanan 18. M Gleeson 19. K Yeaman 20. D McGuire 21. P Deacon 22. M Diskin 23. L Gilmour 24. J Wilkin

Posted 20:58 1st May 2008

David Powell says...

Phil; here's my starter for 10 England squad Wellens Gardener Gleeson Walker Rayner Pryce Burrow Graham Diskin Peacock JJB Ellis Burgess Mauri F Morley Purdham Roby Lynch Carvell Westerman Wilkin O'Loughlin Sykes Maguire Senior

Posted 13:00 1st May 2008

Taylor Whalley says...

Trent has played well both last season &. this season and although there have been rumours he is leaving wigan both him and brian noble have fought off the rumours, but whatever he does decide to do, both barrett fans and wigan fans will be behind him, but why do so many people depend on barrett yeh he is an amazing player but there is more than him on the team

Posted 10:50 1st May 2008

Brendan Smith says...

As somebody who does not live in the Rugby League heartland Millenium Magic is a real godsend. My son and I can see all the matches in a superb stadium and be part of the rugby league unique experience.Mixing with fans from other teams and having a good time.Long may it continue.We do travel to a few other matches during the season but logistics can sometimes be insurmountable.

Posted 20:06 30th April 2008

Derek Abram says...

I think taking people back to Cardiff is a glorious waste of time. South Wales remains totally disinterested in Rugby League so why haven't we gone back to the spritual homes of rugby league big days out - Old Trafford or Wembley? I can just about stomach being made to travel all that way if it was to somewhere that wanted rugby league to be there in the first place. The event is great in concept but it does seem to have some drawbacks - one large one is the loss of a home fixture for half the teams. Some season ticket holders (youngsters in particular)simply cannot afford to travel and stay overnight so they lose out on one match - and a special one at that! Rugby league administrators would do well to remember that! I remember how thrilling the local derbys were that I attended during my teenage years. I support Hull FC and seem to remember that last year as well as this the fixture was our home game against Hull KR that was played in Cardiff. Why does it have to be the local Derby that is moved? This creates a huge buzz in the city of Hull as these two old rivals lock horns once again. Like so many other local derbys it is unique to the city/town that hosts it. The real passion is lost by transposing it to such a distant venue and I would encourage the Rugby League administrators to think again about which fixtures they schedule for the big weekend.

Posted 16:10 30th April 2008

Stephen Weighman says...

A honest ref required this weekend we dont want the farce which happened last year.

Posted 15:04 30th April 2008

Andy Lightowler says...

Phil, Before we do compile our squads can you post a reply on here and tell us how the 24 man squad would usually be broken down i.e 14 forwards 10 backs. Thanks

Posted 13:18 30th April 2008

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