Jack Wilshere's comeback and a thriller at Reading... Check out the Soccer Saturday boys' views.
Last Updated: 30/10/12 11:33am
Matt Le Tissier on Jack Wilshere's comeback for Arsenal against QPR
"Wilshere was excellent. He passed successfully 33 times out of 33 in the first half and they weren't all sideways passes, he was looking to probe forward as well. He came off after an hour or so but he only gave the ball away once. He was the one shining light and carried on despite a challenge from Esteban Granero which resulted in him getting studded on the top of the foot.
"Otherwise, Arsenal really struggled and looked like they were running out of ideas and QPR were just starting to come into the game - Junior Hoilett had a goal disallowed - when Stephane Mbia was sent off. I don't think Mbia can have any complaints as he had a whack at Thomas Vermaelen and caught him just under the knee.
"QPR can't keep losing players, especially when they are taking a foothold in games, but they were unfortunate with Arsenal's goal, as I think Mikel Arteta was in an offside position when it was scored, while Jamie Mackie should also have scored for QPR."
Paul Merson on Reading and Fulham's 3-3 draw
"You thought Fulham were the only team that were going to win the match when they went 2-1 up as they were all over Reading, but fair play to the home team for coming back to get something.
"Going behind seemed to be a release for them then and Brian McDermott brought on Hal Robson-Kanu and Garath McCleary and those two completely changed the game. Reading will be thinking that they should have beaten Fulham at home but points mount up and that could be a massive point at the end of the season.
"As for Fulham, Dimitar Berbatov was outstanding. He plays at his own pace and looked like he was on holiday with his mates, picking the ball up in spaces. It is a real coup for Fulham to get him because he could play at Barcelona, in my opinion, while Bryan Ruiz is a great sub to have. He was different class against Reading - and so was his goal."
Charlie Nicholas on Michael Owen and Stoke's stalemate with Sunderland
"When Jonathan Walters went off, Michael Owen did not come on which was surprising as he has had a lot of time to get fit now and he can't get match fit without the games.
"And then when he did come on he looked quite lively and was getting in the areas we are used to seeing him in. Stoke might not want to force him but sometimes it is needs must and Michael's know-how wold have been useful.
"It wasn't a good game to watch and the highlight was probably the eight added on minutes! Stoke never really upped the tempo and there was very little incident in the last third of the pitch and it all become very niggly with a lot of bookings being dished out. A draw was probably the right result."
Phil Thompson on how Wigan sparkled against West Ham
"Wigan have not had a good run of late but they have their footballing principles and their 3-4-3 formation. That served them very well last season and they have stuck to it this - and they were better all-round than West Ham.
"Going ahead after eight minutes - courtesy of a lovely goal by centre-back Ivan Ramis - gave them a platform and they then went out and played, and James McCarhy and James McCarthur were dominant in midfield with their passing.
"And Aroune Kona up front is full of energy; he has great pace and is always running in behind and dragging defenders back all the time. I don't think he is going to score bags of goals but he is going to get the odd one or two, while Shaun Maloney will get in the spaces. Wigan fully warranted the three points."
Charlie and Thommo on whether Roberto Mancini is under pressure
CHARLIE: "People are putting different spins on the way Micah Richards answered questions after Man City's Champions League defeat to Ajax and the way some of the senior players are debating the manager - and while I have sympathy for Mancini, we can pick holes. I don't think he made his team better in the summer; he didn't need to spend £25-30million but he needed to consolidate in certain positions so his team could go forward. They never really did that. I know they bought Jack Rodwell and some others but letting (Nigel) de Jong go was a bit of a strange one. Are the players happy that they won the Premier League last season? Maybe, because David Silva hasn't turned up this season, and Yaya Toure has hardly turned up over the last three or four weeks."
THOMMO: "The owners will be looking at it and seeing, not for the first time, that Mancini admitted not preparing the team right (against Ajax). Richards said they hadn't worked on the back-three formation and if that is the case I think it is bad planning, even worse that he only did it for five minutes. You can't have defenders looking around and thinking: 'What do I do?' and no clear instructions at the back. It was all over the place and I think Mancini has put himself under pressure by saying these things, even though it is honest and very refreshing."
Thommo and Merse on Petr Cech, Juan Mata and Fernando Torres
THOMMO: "Cech is playing really well and has changed things around from last season when he could be little bit dodgy. Chelsea have had a really good run but he has still pulled off saves in their games to keep the score-lines nice and allowed the attackers to go and do their stuff. He has been so impressive and he is back to his best. Mata, meanwhile, has benefitted from this new attacking system; he is interchanging with Eden Hazard and Oscar and is not pigeonholed out on the left. He is moving around, getting in spaces, making things happen and scoring goals. He has been outstanding."
MERSE: "Torres plays every game up front on his own and it will take its toll; I don't see how he can keep on doing that. It is not his position to play up there on his own, especially when you are playing teams like Shakhtar Donetsk who are dominating the game. You need somebody like Didier Drgibas who can make it stick otherwise it becomes wave after wave after attack from the opposition. That is not a problem against the lesser teams but it is a problem Chelsea will have when they play against the big teams in Europe and the Premier League."
Charlie on Arsenal's business model
"It has been all about business for the last seven years and I applaud the way that when Danny Fiszman was there it was about making Arsenal a financial attraction - and it now is. But they forgot about the other side of the coin and have the highest-priced tickets in the county and are getting no success and it is all about qualification (for the Champions League).
"We hear a lot about what Arsenal are earning and they are probably better off than Real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester United who have too much debt, but ultimately it is about football. People turn up because they want to see Santi Cazorla, Robin van Persie, and Thierry Henry and if they forget that they will go in the wrong direction.
"They have lost big-time players that they could have kept if they had started contract talks earlier and I don't know why they had to get other people into the boardroom when they had their own in David Dein. It is time to become a successful football club."
Le Tiss on whether 'unfashionable' players are overlooked by England
"It has definitely happened down the years and it seems that there is a little bit of bias towards players who have come up through the lower-league ranks. An England squad should be picked on current from and not have players in it because of their name and who they play for. England managers have tended to gloss over current form in favour of big reputations. If you are English and scoring goals regularly in the Premier League, as Grant Holt is, you should be under serious consideration because there are not that many Englishmen doing that in the Premier League."