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Davies: lost his record for Premier League appearances without an England cap

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Tyler's Starting Stat - England's Wembley blank

As you'll see from the teaser at the bottom of the page, I was at Wembley on Tuesday to see England's 0-0 draw with Montenegro, which was the end of England's all-time record of consecutive Wembley wins. Fabio Capello's men had won their previous 11 games at Wembley; the last team to stop them was the Czech Republic, who drew 2-2 at Wembley in August 2008.

Between 1954 and 1957, England also won 11 consecutive home matches, but only 10 of those were played at Wembley, the other being at Molineux. Those wins came on the back of the famous 6-3 home defeat by Hungary.

Tuesday was also the first time England have failed to score at the new Wembley and was almost 10 years to the day since the last game at the old Wembley when they failed to score in a 1-0 defeat to Germany and Kevin Keegan resigned after the game.

It was the sixth time in total that England have failed to score under Capello, having previously failed to score in a 1-0 loss in France, a 2-0 loss in Spain, a 1-0 loss in the Ukraine, a 1-0 loss to Brazil in Doha and a 0-0 draw with Algeria in Cape Town.

Fabio Capello's record now reads: P32 W22 D5 L5 and England have played more games under Capello than Montenegro have in their history. It was only their 31st international and they deserve great credit for going through half of their first European Championship qualifying campaign without conceding a goal.

IT TAKES TWO
Dear Martin. Big fan of the column, keep up the good work. With England fielding yet another central defensive duo against Montenegro this week, can you tell us which is England's most successful pairing, in terms of fewest goals conceded and games won? I wonder if it would actually be Terry and Ferdinand as you might expect. Simon.

MARTIN SAYS: Opta have given us the stats for England's central defensive partnerships that have started games under Fabio Capello (so these stats do not take into account matches when players have been subbed off etc). Rio Ferdinand & Joleon Lescott was the 13th different partnership to start a match under Capello with Terry & Ferdinand (nine starts) and Terry & Upson (eight starts) being the most regular. England have only kept 11 clean sheets in 32 games under Capello and maybe the changes at the back explain that.

Statistically, the most successful pairing is arguably Lescott and Terry, as they have not conceded in the two games they have played together and England have won both games. However, I will let the stats speak for themselves:

England central defensive pairings under Fabio Capello:

PairingPlayedWonDrawnLostGoals concededConceded per gameWin %
Ferdinand and Terry95229155.6%
Terry and Upson87018187.5%
Ferdinand and Upson330031100%
Lescott and Terry220000100%
Jagielka and Terry210131.550%
Ferdinand and Woodgate110000100%
Terry and Carragher1010000%
King and Terry1010110%
Ferdinand and King110011100%
Lescott and Upson1001110%
Jagielka and Lescott110011100%
Jagielka and Dawson110000100%
Ferdinand and Lescott1010000%

NEVER CALLED UP
Hi Martin, in light of Kevin Davies being called up to the England squad, I've heard that he holds the record for the Englishman who has played the most Premier League games without winning a cap for England. Is this true and who else has a substantial number of PL games under their belt yet not played for their beloved England as of yet? Everton's Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert spring to mind. Cheers. James Rackie (Manchester Utd fan)

MARTIN SAYS: You are right. Before Kevin Davies came on as a substitute against Montenegro, he had made 382 appearances in the Premier League and is currently the 21st highest appearance-maker of all-time. Davies was the Englishman with the most Premier League appearances without a cap, but has now lost his place at the top of that list to former Wimbledon and Tottenham defender Chris Perry, who played 363 times in the Premier League without winning a cap.

Englishmen with most Premier League games without playing for England:

1. Chris Perry (363 appearances)
2. Steve Watson (350)
3. Jason Dodd (329)
4. Kevin Campbell (326)
5. Peter Atherton (318)
6. Alan Wright (304)
7. Garry Flitcroft (301)
8. Graham Stuart (294)
9. Andrew Impey (289)
10. Kevin Nolan (279)

In terms of current players, there are now seven Englishmen who have played more than 200 Premier League games, but haven't played for England. As you suggest, the list includes Tony Hibbert, while Leon Osman - on 198 appearances - is likely to join the list shortly.

1. Kevin Nolan (279 appearances)
2. Titus Bramble (252)
3. Jonathan Greening (244)
4. Matthew Taylor (237)
5. Marcus Bent (214)
6. Tony Hibbert (205)
7. Sean Davis (202)

ADDED VALUE
Hi Martin. I was arguing the case that Darren Bent is the most valuable Premier League player for that player's team. My reasoning was that he has the biggest goal advantage over his teammates than any other player in the League last season. Could you check out this stat? Thank you. Scott M, Sunderland Fan

MARTIN SAYS: Darren Bent scored 50% of Sunderland's Premier League goals last season and the stats suggest he was more valuable to his team than any of the other club's top scorers. Carlos Tevez scored more than 31% of Man City's goals, while Wayne Rooney managed more than 30% of Manchester United's. Here is the full breakdown:

TeamTop scorerTop scorer goalsTeam goals% of goals by top scorer
SunderlandDarren Bent244850.0%
Man CityCarlos Tevez237331.5%
Man UnitedWayne Rooney268630.2%
LiverpoolFernando Torres186129.5%
ChelseaDidier Drogba2910328.2%
WolvesKevin Doyle93228.1%
WiganHugo Rodallega103727.0%
TottenhamJermain Defoe186726.9%
BirminghamCameron Jerome103826.3%
Aston VillaGabriel Agbonlahor135225.0%
PortsmouthAruna Dindane83423.5%
BlackburnDavid Dunn94122.0%
EvertonLouis Saha136021.7%
West HamCarlton Cole104721.3%
FulhamBobby Zamora83920.5%
BoltonKlasnic / Taylor84219.0%
BurnleySteven Fletcher84219.0%
ArsenalCesc Fabregas158318.1%
HullStephen Hunt63417.6%
StokeMatthew Etherington53414.7%

It is still early days, but the trend looks like it may continue this term. So far Bent has scored five of Sunderland's seven goals, this season. At 71.4%, we are informed by Opta that is again a higher percentage than any other player for their team.

BEST OF BOTH WORLDS
Hi Martin. My friends have been having a debate about who contributes to the most goals in the Premier League. By this I don't mean just scoring them, but assisting them as well. Which player has the most goals / assists combined in the Premier League from this season and also from last season. I think Frank Lampard and Peter Crouch would be high up the list. Eric.

MARTIN SAYS: Using Opta's statistics for goals and assists from last season and for this season so far, we have calculated the top 10 for you - and a Chelsea player tops both lists, although not the one you predicted, Eric. Didier Drogba contributed to 42 Premier League goals last season, either by scoring or directly assisting a team-mate. He is on course to match that this season, having contributed to 11 goals so far. Here is a fuller breakdown of the stats you want:

Most goals / assists combined in the 2009/10 season:

PlayerGoalsAssistsCombined
Didier Drogba291342
Frank Lampard221739
Wayne Rooney26531
Cesc Fabregas151530
Carlos Tevez23730
Darren Bent24428
Jermain Defoe18523
Nicolas Anelka111021
Florent Malouda12921
Fernando Torres18321

Most goals / assists combined in the 2010/11 season so far:

PlayerGoalsAssistsCombined
Didier Drogba6511
Nani268
Dimitar Berbatov617
Carlos Tevez527
Johan Elmander426
Florent Malouda606
Andrei Arshavin235
Darren Bent505
Andy Carroll415
Matthew Etherongton055
Solomon Kalou415
Theo Walcott415
Luke Varney235

ROY'S A HOME BOY
Dear Martin. A friend who supports Fulham was telling me that they had a very poor away record under Roy Hodgson. As Liverpool haven't won an away game yet this year, I'd like to see how Hodgson's away record compares to his home record in Premier League games. I think they could be quite different. Thanks, Marcus (Liverpool fan)

MARTIN SAYS: Roy Hodgson has not won any of his last 21 Premier League away matches with Liverpool or Fulham. In fact, his last away win was the first game of last season at Portsmouth when Fulham won 1-0 - with a very fortunate goal by Bobby Zamora. It should be pointed out that Hodgson has had three tough away games so far this season - at Man United, Man City and Birmingham.

Here is his record in six Premier League seasons to date. As you can see, his record is much better in home games, but it is worth remembering that two famous away wins at Man City and Portsmouth kept Fulham up in 2007/08 when they were odds on to go down.

Liverpool

2010/11HOME: P4 W1 D2 L1
AWAY: P3 W0 D1 L2

Fulham

2009/10
HOME: P19 W11 D3 L5
AWAY: P19 W1 D7 L11

2008/09
HOME: P19 W11 D3 L5
AWAY: P19 W3 D8 L8

2007/08
HOME: P9 W3 D0 L6
AWAY: P9 W3 D3 L3

Blackburn

1997/98
HOME: P19 W11 D4 L4
AWAY: P19 W5 D6 L8

1998/99
HOME: P7 W2 D1 L4
AWAY: P7 W0 D2 L5

Overall, his home record reads: P77 W39 D13 L25 and his away record reads P76 W12 D27 L37. His win percentage at home is 50.6%, compared to just 15.8% away from home.

THE HUNT FOR BLUE OCTOBER
Hello Martin. I am a Man United fan from Egypt, and I am not happy to see Man City above Man United in the league table after seven matches, I know this may happen in the first couple of weeks, but when was the last time City topped United in the table after each club played seven games or more in the Premier League ? Mohamed Elkholy

MARTIN SAYS: The last time City were ahead of United in the Premier League after more than seven games was November 5, 2006 when City were fifth on 20 points and United were ninth on 18. However, City had played 12 games - two games more than United - and were overtaken again by their rivals when United beat Chelsea on November 6. They then went on to win the Premier League.

In fact, this is the first time that City have led United in the Premier League going into the month of October. The closest they've been before was the 2007/08 season when City were one point behind their rivals for much of October and November, but could not overtake them at the end of a matchday. That season too, United went on to win the title.

In fact, if you're looking for the last time City were ahead of their rivals going into the month of October, you have to go back to the 1990-91 season - and that was the last time City finished above United at the end of the season. That year, City finished fifth, three points ahead of United in sixth.

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Adam Jones (Everton fan) says...

Hi Martin; Tim Cahill seems to be a thorn in the side of many teams (especially Liverpool). I would like to know how many Everton goals have involved him since he has joined us and what Everton''''s record without him is like. Thanks.

Posted 14:20 15th October 2010

Dennis Waigi (Arsenal fan) says...

Hi Martin, Great fan of your column all the way down in Kenya. Hot as the arid here by the way. Anyway, I''''m an ever frustrated Arsenal fan mainly because Arsenal has this unique ability to ruin my birthday, which is on Sept 27th, where they always seem to lose any match within four days of my birthday, the last being against WBA, drawing or losing the next 3-4 games when its already too late to chase for the title. Would you please tell me if this is a worrying trend. Cheers

Posted 06:57 15th October 2010

Kyle Eggelhoefer (Manchester United fan) says...

Hi martin, love the blog. I was wandering what is the biggest underdog international win, both uncompetitive and competitive, in terms of Fifa rankings. (i.e. 200th place beating 1st place). Thanks

Posted 18:53 14th October 2010

Pete Smedmor (Tottenham Hotspur fan) says...

Thanks Martin. Goes to show your stats - Any Spurs Centre half is good enough with that 100% record! I so wish super Gareth Bale was English - it was such a disappointment watching that talent go to waste with Wales!

Posted 22:37 13th October 2010

Andy Connor (Manchester United fan) says...

Martin, in the fallout of the England v Montenegro game its been mentioned how far ahead England are in the FIFA rankings and therefore should have won. However Montenegro only became an independant football nation four years ago and therefore, I assume, started at the bottom and had to work there way up. So my question is, in the same period since they came into being how would other nations be ranked, using there respective results in the same period, specifically England. Just wondering if we are as far ahead of them as the rankings suggest.

Posted 17:25 13th October 2010

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