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Martin Tyler - Martin Tyler Posted 7th May 2013 view comments

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Rafael: only Manchester United's 11th home red card in Premier League history

Rafael: only Manchester United's 11th home red card in Premier League history

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I was at Old Trafford on Sunday where Chelsea increased their record of having more wins against Manchester United in the Premier League than any other club. They have 14 wins (more than any other side), 57 points (more than any other side) and 56 goals (more than any other side) against Sir Alex Ferguson's men. They have also picked up the most points against Manchester United at Old Trafford (25) and the most wins (6), although it was only their second win there in the last eight years.

Fernando Torres has now played 1,116 minutes since his last Premier League goal - the first of eight against Aston Villa on December 23. He has scored none of last 40 Chelsea Premier League goals - but has scored four in his last four in the Europa League

Chelsea have scored 139 goals in all competitions - three short of the club record of 142 for one season set three years ago. The fixture also made this Chelsea's busiest ever season with 65 games (W36 D13 L16). They will play 69 in total. It was also the 550th game of Ashley Cole's club career.

Manchester United's failure to score ended a run of 66 home games of scoring in the Premier League - the last team to blank them was Aston Villa in December 2009. United's failure to win also means they can't beat Chelsea's Premier League record of 29 wins.

RED CARD DEVILS
Dear Martin. When Rafael fouled David Luiz on Sunday my mate said that he wouldn't get a red card because Man United never get a red card at home, so imagine our surprise when Howard Webb pulled out the red. Can you tell me how many red cards Man United have had at home in the Premier League and how this compares to teams like Arsenal and Chelsea. Thanks, Clive (Arsenal fan)

MARTIN SAYS: Rafael was only the 11th Manchester United player to be sent off in the 404 Premier League games they have played at Old Trafford and the first since Jonny Evans in the Manchester derby in October 2011. Indeed, three of those 11 red cards have come in Manchester derbies with a further two in games against Liverpool. Evans has twice been sent off in home Premier League games for Manchester United, as has Roy Keane. They have not had a player sent off in a home game in 11 of the 21 Premier League seasons to date.

Manchester United players sent off in home Premier League games:

05/05/13: Rafael v Chelsea
23/10/11: Jonny Evans v Manchester City
19/03/11: Jonny Evans v Bolton Wanderers
14/03/09: Nemanja Vidic v Liverpool
03/05/08: Nani v West Ham
07/11/04: Alan Smith v Manchester City
21/04/01: Roy Keane v Manchester City
17/12/00: Luke Chadwick v Liverpool
18/04/98: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer v Newcastle United
28/10/95: Roy Keane v Middlesbrough
20/08/94: Paul Parker v Queens Park Rangers

That total of 11 home red cards is the lowest of the ever-present Premier League teams. Liverpool have had 13 players sent off at Anfield in the Premier League years, while Arsenal have had 21 sent off in home games. Chelsea have had 23 sent off at home (including two in one game against Manchester United this season) and Everton have had 31 players sent off at Goodison Park over the years.

Red cards at home for ever-present teams in Premier League history:

Everton: 31
Chelsea: 23
Arsenal: 21
Aston Villa, Tottenham: 18
Liverpool: 13
Man Utd: 11

GROUNDS FOR SUCCESS
Hello Martin, I always relish listening to your captivating commentary and reading your sensational stats and facts column. After seeing Gareth Bale scoring at Old Trafford, the Emirates, Carrow Road, the Hawthorns and the DW Stadium among others, I was wondering if he has achieved a Premier League record of scoring in so many different stadiums? Thank you, Mark Kawanga (Manchester United fan)

MARTIN SAYS: Great question. Gareth Bale has scored on 11 different grounds in Premier League games so far this season. They are (in order of scoring): Madejski Stadium, Old Trafford, St Mary's, The Emirates, White Hart Lane, Villa Park, Carrow Road, The Hawthorns, Upton Park, Liberty Stadium and DW Stadium. Surprisingly he didn't score a goal at home in the league until November 25 against West Ham.

Manchester United striker Robin van Persie has also scored on 11 grounds in the league this season and as you'll see from the list below, only four players have beaten that tally in a single 20-team Premier League campaign.

The record is held by Didier Drogba, who scored on 13 grounds for Chelsea in 2009/10. In order of scoring he netted at: Stamford Bridge, Craven Cottage, Britannia Stadium, DW Stadium, Villa Park, Reebok Stadium, The Emirates, KC Stadium, Molineux, Ewood Park, Fratton Park, Old Trafford and Anfield.

Players to have scored on more than 11 grounds in a single 38-game Premier League season:

DIDIER DROGBA (13 grounds in 2009/10)
KEVIN PHILLIPS (12 grounds in 1999/00)
RUUD VAN NISTELROOY (12 grounds in 2005/06)
IAN WRIGHT (12 grounds in 1996/97)

NB. Andrew Cole and Chris Sutton both scored on 12 Premier League grounds during the 1993/94 season, but this was a 22-team league.

This means that if Bale scores in Spurs' remaining away games this season - against Chelsea and Stoke - he will match Drogba's record. Van Persie cannot match the record as United only have one remaining away game, at West Brom on the final day.

QUICK OFF THE MARK
Hi Martin. Theo Walcott scored the fastest Premier League goal so far this season against QPR on Saturday. I was wondering which goals were among the fastest in Premier League history, and where Theo would rank in the list? Thanks, Joel Kyereme, Arsenal fan

MARTIN SAYS: As you say, Theo Walcott's strike against QPR, timed at 20 seconds by Opta, was the quickest in the Premier League this season, beating Robin van Persie's opener for Manchester United against West Ham, which clocked in at 31 seconds. There have been five goals scored in the first minute this season and, impressively, Walcott has scored two of them.

Quickest goals in the Premier League this season:

04/05/2013: Theo Walcott for Arsenal v QPR (20 secs)
28/11/2012: Robin van Persie for Man Utd v West Ham (31 secs)
07/04/2013: Emmanuel Adebayor for Tottenham v Everton (33 secs)
01/09/2012: Kevin Nolan for West Ham v Fulham (51 secs)
28/11/2012: Theo Walcott for Arsenal v Everton (51 secs)

Walcott's goal was the 103rd in Premier League history to be scored inside the first 60 seconds of a match, but it is difficult to tell you exactly where it is placed in the overall rankings because Opta have only recorded goal times by the second since the start of the 2006/07 season. In that period we haven't seen a quicker goal (although Kevin Doyle's strike for Reading against Sheffield United on September 16, 2006 was also clocked at 20 seconds).

However, we've been through our own records and found at least seven Premier League goals that were quicker and we've listed those for you below, including Ledley King's 10-second strike for Tottenham against Bradford in December 2000, which is widely considered to be the quickest in Premier League history. This list also includes goals I was commentating on live (Chris Sutton and James Beattie):

Seven Premier League goals that were quicker than Theo Walcott's:

DatePlayerForAgainstTime
09/12/2000Ledley King TottenhamBradford10secs
18/01/2003Alan Shearer NewcastleMan City10.4secs
17/03/2001Mark Viduka LeedsCharlton11secs
28/08/2004James Beattie SouthamptonChelsea12.5secs
01/04/1995Chris Sutton BlackburnEverton13 secs
30/09/1995Dwight Yorke Aston VillaCoventry13 secs
10/01/2004Kevin Nolan BoltonBlackburn14secs

NO HIGH FIVES
Dear Martin. I am a Man Utd fan from Nairobi, Kenya. I have been following your column for a numbers of years. It has occurred to me that by this time of the season although Man Utd won the league with four left to play - and have scored 79 goals with 19 players as scorers - not in a single game all season have they scored more than four goals per game in the league. Is this a sort of record? Kind regards. Erastus Mulinge

MARTIN SAYS: So have a team ever previously won the Premier League without scoring more than four in any individual game? The answer is yes, but it has never happened to Manchester United before. In all 12 of their previous Premier League title wins they have scored 5+ on at least one occasion along the way.

However, three other teams have won the league without doing so. Blackburn's champions of 1994/95 put four past Ipswich, West Ham, QPR and Coventry but never scored more than four in a game; the Arsenal side of 2001/02 scored four against Everton, Fulham, Leicester and Middlesbrough but did not get more; and when Jose Mourinho's Chelsea won the league in 2004/05 they scored four on seven occasions but never hit five.

That's in contrast to Manchester City last season who scored 5+ goals on four separate occasions (beating Norwich 6-1 and 5-1; Tottenham 5-1 and of course Manchester United 6-1). However, the record is held by the Chelsea side of 2009/10 who hit 5+ goals on six separate occasions in their 38 matches (5-0 v Blackburn; 7-2 v Sunderland; 5-0 v Portsmouth; 7-1 v Aston Villa; 7-0 v Stoke; 8-0 v Wigan).

Eventual champions scoring 5+ goals in title-winning season:

SeasonChampionsScored 5+ goals
1992/93Man Utd1
1993/94Man Utd2
1994/95Blackburn0
1995/96Man Utd2
1996/97Man Utd1
1997/98Arsenal2
1998/99Man Utd3
1999/00Man Utd3
2000/01Man Utd3
2001/02Arsenal0
2002/03Man Utd2
2003/04Arsenal1
2004/05Chelsea0
2005/06Chelsea1
2006/07Man Utd1
2007/08Man Utd2
2008/09Man Utd3
2009/10Chelsea6
2010/11Man Utd2
2011/12Man City4
2012/13Man Utd0 so far

NO UPS AND DOWNS
Hi Martin. As the season nears its end and all the promotion and relegation issues will soon be settled, a question sprung to mind. There are plenty of "yo-yo clubs" who season after season experience both relegation and promotion between the divisions of the Football League. I would like to know; outside of the Premier League, which Football League club has been in its current division for the longest amount of time? When you consider that 18 out of the 24 clubs in the Championship have been Premier League clubs at one time, I can't imagine the time period will be huge! Thanks. Liam, Ireland.

MARTIN SAYS: The answer to your question is Oldham Athletic, who were relegated to the third tier of English football in 1996/97 and have not gone up or down since then. Next season will be their 17th consecutive campaign at that level. They reached the play-offs in 2002/03 and 2006/07 and narrowly avoided relegation in 2004/05, but remain the Football League club on the longest run without a promotion or a relegation. Although they have been stuck in that rut, at least they produced an impact with their FA Cup exploits this term.

Below we have listed the clubs on the longest runs in the same division as of the 2012/13 season - but as you'll see, some of those runs have come to an end (such as Cardiff's 10-year stay in the second flight) or in the case of Crystal Palace and Yeovil, could be about to come to an end in the play-offs.

Football League clubs on longest runs in same division (up to 2012/13):

Oldham (16 years in third tier)
Tranmere (12 years in third tier)
Ipswich Town (11 years in third tier)
Cardiff City (10 years in second tier)*
Barnet (8 years in fourth tier)*
Crystal Palace (8 years in second tier)**
Yeovil Town (8 years in third tier)**
Accrington Stanley (7 years in fourth tier)
Aldershot Town (7 years in fourth tier)*
Barnsley (7 years in second tier)
Carlisle United (7 years in third tier)
Leyton Orient (7 years in third tier)

*Run has now come to an end
** Run could end in play-offs

The team who haven't changed divisions for the longest period overall remains Arsenal, who will play their 88th consecutive top-flight season next year:

Most consecutive seasons in current division:

Arsenal (87)
Everton (59)
Liverpool (51)
Manchester United (38)
Tottenham Hotspur (35)
Aston Villa (25)
Chelsea (24)
Oldham Athletic (16)
Fulham (12)
Tranmere Rovers (12)

Comments (6)

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Adrian Sequeira (Manchester United fan) says...

Hi Martin, With Lampard becoming Chelsea's leading goal scorer in history. I was wondering what is the most number of goals scored by a player for a single club?

Posted 10:18 14th May 2013

Philip Plowman (Aston Villa fan) says...

Hi Martin, love the column. As an Aston Villa fan I have noticed we have now gone 20 games without keeping a clean sheet, and have so far only managed to keep a clean sheet three times this season. Is this a record? If not I would love to know which team has failed to keep the most clean sheets in consecutive games and which team has had the fewest clean sheets in a premier league season to date.

Posted 06:08 8th May 2013

Edward Mulego (Liverpool fan) says...

Thanks Martin for the stats and knowledge you give us! I'm a liverpool fan! kindly answer my question on which season in the premier league had the most cards (yellow, red)? Thanks

Posted 15:58 7th May 2013

Alan Thomas (Manchester United fan) says...

Why did mr Webb re start the match with a free kick after Rafael was sent off on Sunday. The ball was out of play when he kicked David Luis. Last season at Old Trafford Phil Dowd sent off an opposition player after a bad tackle in the penalty area but said he could not give the penalty as the ball was out of play before the actual impact. Who was right?

Posted 14:57 7th May 2013

David Jones (Carlisle United fan) says...

Hi Martin. I saw that Geoff Cameron was taking long throws against Sunderland on Monday night. I'm sure that's at least the third long throw taker they've had since coming to the Premier League, started by Rory Delap - how many have they had altogether, and what percentage of all takers have they been responsible for? Are they as far out in front of everyone else as you'd expect? Cheers

Posted 13:57 7th May 2013

Owen Clark (Manchester United fan) says...

Hi Martin. Having seen Sunderland struggle lately without Steven Fletcher's goals there is a strong possibility he will face relegation as a club's top scorer for three seasons in a row. I was wondering what the most consecutive relegations with different clubs is. Surely Fletcher will be one of the most if Sunderland are relegated. Thanks

Posted 13:54 7th May 2013

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