I am very surprised at what's happened today. I am surprised that English cricket continues to shoot itself in the foot just before an Ashes series.
This is something that could've been avoided if people had gone about things in the right way - and they've certainly not gone about it the right way.
The ECB knew, when they signed Kevin Pietersen as captain, when they gave him the job they knew from his history what kind of guy he is. That was why, I guess - and I thought - they gave him the job; because he is an abrasive guy, he took people on, asked questions of people and wasn't happy just plodding along with his own game.
Pietersen: abrasive
Look at him when he left Natal to come to England; look at him when he left Notts to go to Hampshire, look at him when he took over the England captaincy: he was going to be in your face, question people and take people on and they must've known that eventually it was going to come to a clash between Pietersen and Moores.
The ECB should've been able to react to that. If they've given him the job to be this abrasive, this in your face, then maybe at some stage they should have sat down and listened.
Discussion
Kevin Pietersen himself should definitely have gone about this in a much more professional way, you can't just sit on safari in South Africa and issue ultimatums to the board about the England cricket captaincy, it is far too important for that.
You can't just sit on safari in South Africa and issue ultimatums to the board about the England cricket captaincy.
Nasser Hussain
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You get off your backside, you come to England, you sit down with your bosses and you decide and discuss what is the best way to progress and what has happened in the last week has been very poor from a lot of people.
Also you don't always get on with your coach. That's not your job, your job is not to be popular with the players, or your coach, you're there to get the job done.
Myself and Duncan Fletcher argued about a lot of things behind the scenes, about Andrew Flintoff about Steve Harmison, about everything. But never in the public domain, in front of the team or the cameras. I knew and he knew that we were a team, just as Fletcher and Vaughan were a team.
You have your good points and bad points, but don't we all? Peter Moores has some really good points: he sets the team up brilliantly in the mornings, he trains the team well, they are finely-tuned and you can see that. His bad points might be he is not as tactically astute as Duncan Fletcher - but who has been over the last 20 or 30 years.
Enough is enough
Whoever is captain has to work out with their coach; it's like a marriage. We work together on this and that and we just try to get the job done as best we can. It's never perfect and it's almost as if Pietersen is looking for perfection. Should we criticise him for that? Perhaps, because it's never perfect.
As for the next man to captain England if it is not Pietersen, it will be difficult for Michael Vaughan to return. I believe that when you are done as England captain, you are done. Something within you tells you that enough is enough.
You've put yourself through it mentally for four or five years and something just switches off. You could see in that emotional press conference in Loughborough that Michael had given the job all he could.
I don't believe in going backwards, I believe in trying to progress a side, take it in a forward direction.
In that respect, I always thought Andrew Strauss would make - and has made - a very good England captain. I just like the way he goes about his business.
But I am going to back a little bit before I go and say that I would have quite liked Kevin Pietersen's way to work. If he does stay as captain, I would like him to continue to challenge people and take people on, providing it is done in the right way.
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Keronn Patels says...
What a debacle by ECB. My concern is all this so called experts including your good self Nasser whom i much respect & admire, why did it get so far.Where the board blind to see what is going on.People in such positions should be made accountable and not Peter Moores & Kevin Pietersen who were made sacrifical lambs.Can you imagine the damage that the board has caused with the mental state of both this men when they reengage themselves in cricket at any level. The media and Sky Sports should have a whole blown enquiry into why and who are responsible for allowing this to get so bfar and make wholesale changes at tetop. I suggest we have people who really care for English Cricket and not title and moneyseekers to manage this lovely beautiful sport.
Posted 09:32 10th January 2009
Kovin Naidoo says...
All I say is "Thank goodness KP's not playing for South Africa". When he played for Natal, his preformances were very average, yet he demanded a central contract from Cricket SA. KP did not even score a first class century for Natal at that stage. Players of colour like Amla and JP Duminy have averaged more than 50 in first class cricket before gievn a go for SA. England can have KP. South Afica are a lot better off without him.
Posted 00:14 9th January 2009
David Van vuuren says...
'KP' hmmm ... Got to smile, South Africa's best export to England in a long time :-))) Never liked his style, and at first, didn't rate him at all. Well done to him, he's proven many in SA wrong - he is a mighty talented cricketer. But as a person ... Well, you guys can have him any day! Pity he won't be captaining England against SA here at the end of the year, though. Many here were looking to rub his nose in it! Barmy Army too right! Now the question is, will he be in the team at all?
Posted 14:58 8th January 2009
James Coats says...
Odd that Strauss, who was dropped barely a year ago, is now considered long-term captain material. Pieterson got the nod a la Botham in 1981 as he was / is the team's best player and one of the few guaranteed a place from game to game , which would help continuity. None of the other batters is either certain of a long term place on recent form (Collingwood) or captain material (Bell, Shah, Cook). It seems a bit odd to throw the baby out with the bathwater in losing both captain and coach. I'd have brought in someone new to captain the Test team, like Rob Key, a good run-getter, some prior Test experience and a good captain at county level, although I'm not sure you could play him in shorter-form matches. As for Pieterson, great player as he is, if England can't find 11 English-born cricketers fit for the job, then I've never seen the need to employ South Africans (this goes back to Lamb, Smith, et.al). Kevan should have stayed with South Africa - he'd be playing under a good captain there, that's for sure!
Posted 13:36 8th January 2009
Shaun Robinson says...
i have been an avid follower of cricket man and boy,watching the news this morning to see KP surrounded by security guards as he was ushered through a side door summed the arrogance of the guy
Posted 12:56 8th January 2009
Laurence Bickers says...
Nasser, we have a long history in this country of periodically making the best player captain. It seldom works. Botham, Flintoff and Pietersen are some examples. Whereas as some of our better captains have been let's say trying not to be unkind, unexceptional as players - Brierley, and Hussain.
Posted 12:03 8th January 2009
Clive Brickell says...
I'm affraid KPs ego was far to big for the England job. I am delighted Strauss has now got the job, he should have been given it instead of Freddie, and then we wouldn't be in this mess in an ashes year. I also feel it could be a mistake to loose PM, his style of managment would have complemented AS. Now lets get behind the team and wish them a successful 2009
Posted 19:34 7th January 2009
Jeremy Dyer says...
The blame for this petulant, public spat should be laid firmly at the front door of the ECB....! And, obviously it takes two to tango so KP as well, but to a lesser degree!! But first my two cents worth and a couple of ironies we have all witnessed recently and I can't help myself. Firstly, KP's calling of Smithy being a muppet in his well publicised Autobiography and lambasting him on his personality traits and what not is now hilarious? In fairness I agreed as well as Smithy was not my favourite either, however, has Smithy come along way in the past few weeks and put right whatever wrongs were about himself and/or his make-up. But now, on the contrary KP has almost certainly gone down in people's estimation and certainly mine because for all his guts, will and determination i thought he was better than this... ! But, having said that I can't help but believe that Smithy has matured in leaps and bounds in all aspects and this is down to a many things not least his own self-improvement but also the quality personnel that surrounds him, namely Duncan Fletcher, Jeremy Snape and last but not least Mickey Arthur and the rest of the management team. So finally, my point of laying the blame firmly at the ECB because they looked to KP as being the prodigal saviour of English cricket without putting the required or necessary personnel in place so as to assist and/or prevent something like this boiling over or from preventing him becoming bigger than the team. I can't help but think how he would behaving if there were guys like Botham, Nass or even Athers in the set-up? There is no doubt he is needed at the helm but get the structures right and move forward quickly because this, whilst petty, can be resolved swiftly!!
Posted 19:15 7th January 2009
Mike Caldwell says...
V good post from Nasser. I agree with Steve Ransome on this, in that although KP is a fantastic player, it does not automatically make him the best skipper material. ( I cite one I T Botham here) In my view he should never have been appointed as he does not have the credentials. International cricket captaincy is amongst the most difficult jobs in sport. You have to be tactically astute, you need subtle man management skills to get the best out of your team & you have to be a diplomat off the field. This probably includes developing a working relationship with the coach, a lot of which, as Nasser says, is done behind closed doors. I believe KP is too self centred & egotistical & probably not bright enough to carry a job of this magnitude. However , whoever is appointed as the replacement, let his first job be to keep him in the team!
Posted 17:45 7th January 2009
Pres Patel says...
Well this fiasco comes as no surprise I think a new man is needed Owais Shah...a talented cricketer who would fit the shoes similarly like Nasser Hussian did He has been overlooked for many years I saw his innings in India one day and he looked very distressed in his last innings when he batted lower in the order Come on ECB wake up to a new Era, you did not support Kevin#
Posted 17:32 7th January 2009
Tawanda Pari says...
The appointment of KP to skipper England always carried a whiff of Shakespearean tragedy which is all too fashionable in English sport these days. Whilst noone can fault his commitment to the national side, appointing Beckham as skipper in football, was as a weak decision when there were stand out club captains such as Gerrard and Neville at the time. Appointing KP as cricket captain was equally egregious. Some will say it is easy with hindsight, but given his egocentric track record, it didn't take much foresight to know it was always going to end in tears. Anyone who leaves the country of his birth (South Africa) in bad blood, gets a Three Lions tattoo soon after, and then calls himself "proud"- has no business being captain of England. It's about character and principle, as well as ability. KP lacks the principle. England fans deserve more. ironically, Andrew Strauss, the new favourite was himself born in Johannesburg. but he seems to have oodles more class about him. At least Strauss doesn't wear two earrings.
Posted 17:09 7th January 2009
Tom Manning says...
A dreadful day for English cricket, and a great day for Australia. Whilst they value their number one status in the world, they value the Ashes more! I would still hope we can find one captain for all formats. Whilst Andrew Strauss would make an excellent test captain, I am not sure he warrants a place in the One Day set up.
Posted 16:05 7th January 2009
Jamal Ahmed says...
Why do you think South Africa never had any respect for Kevin Pieterson, He thinks his bigger than the game. Thank goodnes he never played for South Africa.
Posted 15:20 7th January 2009
Ritesh Lamsal says...
Brilliant post Nass! I agree with everything you said in that post, except the conclusion in which you suggested that the best man for the job is still Pieterson. I think all forms of group sports, cricket included, individual players matter big-time, but group efforts go a longer way in winning big wars. I think Pieterson is too abrasive, too defiant, almost arrogant in many ways. It is nice to have such characters in the dressing room, because you know they can sometimes instill fire and passion, which all teams can sometimes lack. But he was never my choice to lead England in the first place, now that he has "so casually" given it up when things were turning sour, suggests me that the best way forward is to accept his resignation, drop him from the tour of the Carribean and ask Strauss to lead. I know Strauss has his own problems (like fitting into the ODI's and T20s), but it would be an ideal situation, where no one in the side, would have any problems accepting it. Drop Moores too, if his resignation hasn't been already accepted. How about Nasser Hussain becoming the head coach! (hehe)
Posted 15:17 7th January 2009
Al Preston says...
This situation is about the last straw for me. As members of Nottinghamshire CCC my wife and I were disgusted at the decision to give an ashes test to Cardiff. We wouldn't have minded losing out to one of the established grounds. But to give the Aussies even a smell of a chance is beyond belief. Against my better judgement we purchased tickets for the two D/N ODI's at Trent Bridge after much persuasion by our friends. I am now seriously considering returning them as a protest against the pathetic, incompetent, useless and any other of the most derogatory terms you can think of, ECB. From Giles Clark down they are an utter disgrace and should resign en bloc and that includes Moores and Pietersen. None of them have the cricket loving publics interest at heart, only their over inflated egos. Who cares if Pietersen is the best batsman in the world? I'm sick of his tantrums and as things have turned out I'd like to buy the bloke who threw his kitbag out of the Trent Bridge window a drink. Peter Moores and his entourage are no better and are just in it for the cushy ride. If they were in the real world of recession, they wouldn't last 5 minutes. I'm sure Nasser and a few others who have worked their guts out to drag England up to a decent level would like to say more but good grace prevents it. I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO BITE MY TONGUE!!!!
Posted 14:31 7th January 2009
Deewana Pagal says...
i always consider you to be one of the great cricket players and thinkers. I feel if a captain tries to make himself the decision maker then it will definitely creat a rift among players at some point. We have example of Inzamam-ul-Haq, Surav Ganguly, Anil Kumble etc. Therefore I urge whoever the next captain is, that HE takes the whole team together and does not think of himself above all - even if he is one of the best players around. Good luck.
Posted 14:30 7th January 2009
Bob Howison says...
Bring in John Bracewell for a term to really upset the apple cart with his Leading Teams Assessment forms, ethics, ethos, athletes and other babble. Then Mr Pietersen would be thankful for Mr Moores and I would be a very happy man of Gloucestershire.
Posted 14:13 7th January 2009
Stephen Ransome says...
KP does not appear to have the gravitas to be a skipper. He seems to react to situations rather than think through them and then respond in a considered manner. As a leader he is in danger of setting a poor example. Yes, he is right to challenge and question, but the manner in which he has approached the issues is more destructive than constructive. If England are to provide a credible performance for the WI tour Ashes there is not the time to rebuild the team to accord to KP's liking. If he has gone then the advantage the next skipper has,provided KP has not split the dressing room,is that he can inspire the players to put thisbehind them and play trheir best for England,with or with out KP!
Posted 14:02 7th January 2009
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