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One of the big assumptions here is that the Villa fans hate 'Eck because he's a former Blues manager. That's not completely true. Many of us were willing to give him a chance, but this season has been an absolute failure. I expected a completely mid-table finish, and I don't think that was unreasonable. We're not going to be a top-6 side again anytime soon, but we have at least a mediocre team this season that should be able to garner more than just 7 wins. I admit, it was foolish for the Villa fans to vociferously protest Houllier. We played attractive football, and our biggest problem was finishing the chances we created. Now we create almost no chances at all. Of course, selling players like Young (summer 2011 not 2010) and Downing hasn't helped, but we have a least half-decent replacements in N'Zogbia and Albrighton. But for some reason known only to the gods, he plays Heskey on the wing. Heskey is a decent player who doesn't deserve much of the criticism he receives, but he's a centre forward. Is he going to be beating a fullback with his speed? Tracking back to help defend? Putting in good crosses? His managerial record here is worse than with the Blues, and I don't think many people would argue they had a better squad than we do now. In the end though, I blame Lerner for this. The sudden cessation of money, the signing of a hugely unpopular manager whose tactics are completely opposite what we and the team are used to, and a complete lack of honesty have all discredited him. None of the Villa fans know what he wants. We keep hearing these claims that we're "trying to get back to Europe," but his actions don't support that. At this point, I almost wish we would get relegated so we can completely sort things out and rebuild from the bottom up.
Posted 16:41 26th April 2012
Jeff, on what basis is Eck a good manager? Not his track record definitely (but possibly his popularity amongst media and other "football people". He does indeed seem a very personable man.) Please publish McLeish Premier League statistics (around 135 games I think?) which I am sure you have to hand at Sky. Then consider he previously came third in a 2 horse race in Scotland. He has produced the worst home record in Villa's history and his football style is ineffective in the PL. Dwight Yorke (who does know a bit about football and Villa) stated on Sky that Villa should not be in their current league position with players at the club and I agree. We have seen a "finished over the hill" Chelsea squad respond to the skills/personality of DiMatteo which would seem to demonstrate that managers can and should have a positive effect when taking over. Eck also spent around £17m on Given N'Zogbia and Hutton. "His" players, but while Given is a reasonable replacement for Friedel the other 2 have not performed. One might also question the wisdom of bringing an injury plagued, albeit talented but unlucky, Jenas on loan but it might have come off. It really is nothing to do with Eck's "previous job" but more about what he did there in having taken our them down twice in 3 season. (Accepting he won a trophy) Jeff, you may want to reconsider your view when looking at the facts of Eck's PL statistics and past performance. That said the current demise of Villa is the responsibility of Mr Lerner and Paul Faulkner who have made dreadful decisions and totally ignored the views of their paying customers when inviting Eck across to VP. As Mick McCarthy said at the time - Eck must have thought he'd won the Lottery - get current club relegated but get offered job at neighbours. Mick must be expecting "the call" to take over at The Hawthorns anytime now!!! :-)
Posted 16:38 26th April 2012
I'm sorry, but where do all these so-called 'expert' pundits get their ideas from regarding Alex McLeish being a good football manager? His CV as a manager certainly does not lend itself to him being classed in the 'good' bracket: 1 - 3rd place finish with Rangers in 05/06 (a league with only 2 teams!) 2 - 10 matches without a win with Rangers 3 - Relegated twice in 3 years in charge of Birmingham City 4 - Worst home record in Aston Villa's 138 year history Ok, he won some trophies with Rangers, but who hasn't when they have been in charge of an old firm club? Apart from that, he has a below average record as a manager. When we were trying to appoint a new manager after Houllier, our club chief executive (Paul Faulkner) issued a statement saying the number 1 priority was that the manager should have a "proven premiership track record". Therefore, in my opinion, McLeish was lucky to be given an interview let alone the actual job. In any other walk of life, if you haven't got the skills to do the job, you don't get the job. I don't quite understand what is so different about the recruitment process in football management?
Posted 16:34 26th April 2012
........ and another thing what has Mc'leish got against Jean Makoun ? from day one he sent him away on a seasons long loan deal . Surely with the injury and illness problems our squad has had this season , having him back to the squad for another try would have been the best thing to do. How can someone stick with heskey yet not be prepared to give an international with champions league football another chance
Posted 16:33 26th April 2012
A good manger really is he? He has only won 15 games out of the last 72 games in the Premier League. His terrible tactics, his constant playing of Heskey in midfield. The way he sets up the team of settling for a point at home and not to lose by a big score away. He has only won 7 games this season, 4 of them at home. Its just not good enough. Every Villa fan wasn't happy when he was appointed last June but we gave him a chance. What was Randy Lerner thinking?
Posted 16:22 26th April 2012
Totally disagree there Jeff. A poor manager with poor tactics, yes he is a nice guy, but that shouldn't be an excuse. We've got the scored the 2nd least amount of home goals in the league and have only won 4 at home. We've been unlucky with injuries, but it doesn't hide the fact that we don't go at teams and at least go for it. If we lost games when we've attacked and tried, then the fans wouldn't mind. But it's the total opposite, once we score we sit back and let teams come at us. And don't write these kids off yet. They will make you eat your words.
Posted 16:10 26th April 2012
Some valid points made there ! , in my opinion the game against WBA is our best chance for points and although we are absolutely rubbish at the moment during derby matches form can sometimes go out the window. I believe we have been" hung out to dry" by lerner and co , if you look at Blackburn , Wigan and QPR they have people who can score goals , with the villa we are seriously short of forward options and during the january transfer window we took a loan signing when lerner should have freed up money for another permanent striker to help push us up the league! Cmon lerner tell us the truth wheres the cash gone ? why did oneil quit and what can you provide for the future ?
Posted 16:08 26th April 2012
You've made some really good comments here Jeff. I agree that losing Barry, Milner, Young and Downing in the space of 3 years has had a massive impact at the club, but why on Earth was McLeish appointed? I feel that the money issues lie with Lerner, but the manager appointment and signings fall under the responsibility of Paul Faulkner, Lerner's right hand man. As I said, why was McLeish appointed? 3 years in the Premier League, 2 relegations with our rivals, and a very ugly 9th place finish. In what way would this guy 'stop a sinking ship'? I agree he has had nothing to work with. Steve Bruce was sacked after a poor run with Sunderland, but MoN with the same crop of players has ensured the safety of the club. I think Lerner and Faulkner need to carefully consider their position in the club, as i fear that my once great club will go under, and we will be left with nothing if we get relegated to the Championship. I love the Villa, but McLeish just has to go, sorry.
Posted 15:35 26th April 2012
with all due respect to your thoughts on this matter Mr. McLeish inherrited a team that should no way be in the position we are currently in and if he wasnt so negitive when he had a full squad available we would'nt have the issue of relegation now
Posted 15:10 26th April 2012
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but on this occasion you are wrong...the man is complete imbecile and should never have been put in charge. His style of football is negative and that is why we find ourselves in this postion, we should have had points in the bag when we had a fully fit squad...but here we are in a relegation battle. His past record speaks for itself, relagated twice with B'ham and Rangers finishing third in what is a normally a two horse race. Even with the squad he has now we should have been safe by now....he needs to go and to take his two sidekicks with him. He has failed his task and as Lord Sugar say.....you fired!!
Posted 15:05 26th April 2012
McLiesh has for long time been known as a negative manager, that has not changed this season, yes we have seen some big names leave, but then as you pointed out, he has also had money to play with. Shay Given, class act, but then he has spent the best part of £10 million on Nzogbia whom we all know about his temperament, AMC star signing you might say and yet he has spent the vast majority of the season on the bench, Alan Hutton probably the worst full back I have seen in my 10 years as a season ticket holder, £4 million when we already had 4 other players who could play the same position, surely he could have invested this money in a strong commanding midfielder which we have been crying out for? Jermaine Jenas or ¿glass knees¿ whom cost a million for the season and we are still paying his wages, Robbie Keane, class act for the 6 games he was here yet Everton went and spent the same figure (600k) on Darren Gibson who would walk into our midfield at present and has experience at the highest level would of proved vital. Combined he has spent a large sum of money, and bar Given I don¿t see much of a return for the best part of £20 million that has been invested, a figure David Moyes could only dream of at Everton. A good manager? A good man I can accept but most certainly not a good manager. Two relegations at Birmingham, about to relegate us and finished 3rd in a two horse race in Scotland, these are just a few damming facts and along with his negative style of play I fail to see how he can be classed as a good manager, especially considering when he commands a £2 million a year salary, the 20th highest managerial salary in Europe. The one thing however I do agree with is that we probably won¿t get another point in the last 3 games which will inevitably result in our relegation, and as the press are now starting to realise, Alex is not a very good manager McLeish out.
Posted 15:01 26th April 2012
Probably three relegations in four seasons, came third in a two horse race in Scotland, Villa's worst home record in the history of club. What exactly makes McLeish a "good" manager?
Posted 14:56 26th April 2012
Cmon Jeff, have you actually watched any Villa matches this season? Good manager? Not a chance, he plays one dimensional, defensive football and he's not even any good at that. People can talk of injuries all they want, but he was still below par before Bent, Dunney & Petrov went out. He's not got a clue. Playing hutton on the wings against Spurs - whats that all about? Yeah he's had a bit of bad luck, but it must have been the 4th relegation of this mans carrier, and finishing 3rd in the SPL with Rangers too!! Face it - he's out of his depth!
Posted 14:54 26th April 2012