Ups and downs
Thursday 17 February 2011 12:59, UK
Beating the champs and going down, the most fouled players and efficient scorers... it's Martin Tyler.
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Martin Tyler's stats and facts column is here! Every week he will be here to offer you statistical gems to make your day, impress your mates and, on occasion, to settle the odd bet. Sky Sports' voice of football and his back-up team of experts are here to answer your questions and queries on all things statistical and historical from the beautiful game. If you have spotted something from a game or have been stumped by a pub quiz question, simply email skysportsclub@bskyb.com and he will do his best to help.Tyler's Starting Stat - Roo beauty!
My tonsils have just about recovered after commentating on Manchester United's win over City at Old Trafford on Saturday. That famous Wayne Rooney goal extended a wonderful stat that has seen him score in 41 home Premier League games for United - and they have won them all. Of course not only did he score his sixth goal in 13 games against City, but he also nailed the win. Nani now has 10 goals in all competitions, reaching double figures for the first time, while Ryan Giggs played in his 34th Manchester derby last weekend. In fact, since scoring in his first derby in May 1991 he has only missed one game against City, the 0-0 draw at Eastlands earlier this season. That was his 605th appearance for United overall and it means that if he plays this weekend he will equal Bobby Charlton's 606 games in a United shirt. United's derby record in the Premier League now reads P28 W17 D6 L5, but City are getting closer. This was the first time the clubs have met as top-three rivals since November 1991 when United finished second and City fifth in the final season before the Premier League started. Finally, City's record at Old Trafford since that famous game when Denis Law scored with a backheel now reads P27 W1 D11 L15.TOPPING THE TOP 10
Hi Martin. Watching the Gunners play the Wolves on Saturday, I believe I heard a comment that of the Wolves 24 points, 20 points have come from teams in the top 10 of the league. Thus, I wonder, how would the table look if only performances against top 10 teams mattered. Thanks, Michael MARTIN SAYS: If you only include results against the current top 10 teams - Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City, Tottenham, Chelsea, Liverpool, Sunderland, Bolton, Stoke and Newcastle - then Wolves would have 19 points and be up in fourth place (although they have played more games than most against those teams). The team with the best record against the top sides is Manchester United, who have not lost to a team in the top 10, winning eight and drawing 12 of their fixtures. The table would see Spurs in second, Man City in third and Arsenal down in 11th. The Gunners have picked up just 13 points against sides in the top 10 this season. Bottom of the pile would be West Ham. In 12 games against the top 10 sides they can boast just one win (1-0 at home to Tottenham) and one draw (1-1 with Stoke) - both in September. Premier League table if only results against top 10 counted:
| P | W | D | L | F | A | GD | Pts | |
| 1. Man Utd | 12 | 8 | 4 | 0 | 19 | 7 | 12 | 28 |
| 2. Tottenham | 13 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 18 | 15 | 3 | 23 |
| 3. Man City | 12 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 12 | 9 | 3 | 19 |
| 4. Wolves | 16 | 6 | 1 | 9 | 19 | 28 | -9 | 19 |
| 5. Everton | 15 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 19 | 21 | -2 | 18 |
| 6. Chelsea | 12 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 16 | 14 | 2 | 17 |
| 7. Liverpool | 12 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 15 | 17 | -2 | 17 |
| 8. Sunderland | 14 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 18 | 21 | -3 | 17 |
| 9. Blackpool | 12 | 5 | 1 | 6 | 16 | 23 | -7 | 16 |
| 10. Fulham | 14 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 10 | 13 | -3 | 14 |
| 11. Arsenal | 11 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 18 | 15 | 3 | 13 |
| 12. Stoke | 12 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 14 | 18 | -4 | 13 |
| 13. Newcastle | 13 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 20 | 26 | -6 | 13 |
| 14. Birmingham | 14 | 2 | 7 | 5 | 13 | 23 | -10 | 13 |
| 15. West Brom | 13 | 3 | 3 | 7 | 12 | 26 | -14 | 12 |
| 16. Wigan | 14 | 1 | 8 | 5 | 12 | 25 | -13 | 11 |
| 17. Bolton | 13 | 3 | 1 | 9 | 16 | 24 | -8 | 10 |
| 18. Blackburn | 16 | 2 | 3 | 11 | 13 | 31 | -18 | 9 |
| 19. Aston Villa | 15 | 1 | 4 | 10 | 13 | 34 | -21 | 7 |
| 20. West Ham | 12 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 28 | -22 | 4 |
TOPPLING... IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE
Hi Martin. In light of Wolves' win against Man United, they stand in the position where they could beat the champions and still be relegated in the same season, has this ever happened before? Thanks, Pete MARTIN SAYS: If Manchester United win the title and Wolves are relegated, then Mick McCarthy's men would become only the third team in Premier League history to suffer the drop despite defeating the eventual champions. The last time it happened was all the way back in 1996/97 when Sunderland beat eventual champions Manchester United 2-1 at home (Michael Gray and John Mullin with the goals) only to finish 19th and drop to the second tier. In the reverse fixture at Old Trafford United won 5-0, so it wasn't all good news for the Wearsiders. That was the game when Eric Cantona scored his famous majestic chip - a goal that has been replayed a few times this week after Rooney's exploits (although it must be remembered that was the fifth of five, not the winner). The only other occasion when this has happened was in 1994/95 when Norwich City beat eventual champions Blackburn 2-1 at Carrow Road thanks to goals from Mark Bowen and Jon Newsome. They also managed a 0-0 draw at Ewood Park, but despite remaining unbeaten against the title winners, they finished 18th and were relegated. Of the 55 teams to have been relegated from the Premier League, only 17 have taken any points at all from the eventual champions. Those results are listed below. All of the other relegated sides lost both fixtures against the league winners. 1992/93: Middlesbrough 1-1 Man Utd
1993/94: Swindon 2-2 Man Utd
1994/95: Norwich 2-1 Blackburn, Blackburn 0-0 Norwich, Leicester 0-0 Blackburn
1995/96: QPR 1-1 Man Utd
1996/97: Sunderland 2-1 Man Utd
1997/98: C Palace 0-0 Arsenal
1998/99: Blackburn 0-0 Man Utd
1999/00: Man Utd 1-1 Wimbledon; Wimbledon 2-2 Man Utd
2000/01: Man Utd 1-1 Man City
2002/03: Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd; West Ham 1-1 Man Utd
2003/04: Leicester 1-1 Arsenal
2005/06: Birmingham 0-0 Chelsea
2007/08: Man Utd 0-0 Reading
2008/09: Man Utd 1-1 Newcastle
2009/10: Hull 1-1 Chelsea
A GRAND DON'T COME FOR FREE
Dear Martin. I read that Tottenham became the sixth team to reach 1,000 points in the Premier League. Can you tell me which team is likely to be the seventh? Thanks, Jamie (Liverpool) MARTIN SAYS: Tottenham's 2-1 win over Sunderland saw them climb onto 1002 Premier League points, becoming the sixth team to do so after Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Aston Villa. As you can see from the table below, the team most likely to become the seventh is Everton, who can currently boast 954 Premier League points. However, there are two other sides not far behind: Newcastle have 941 points and Blackburn have 928 - both of whom have missed two complete Premier League seasons. The next closest are West Ham, who are a long way back on 756 points. You will also see from the table below that Spurs are soon likely to become the fifth team to score 1,000 Premier League goals. They have scored 988 in the Premier League, so need just 12 more to reach that target. Aston Villa may have beaten them to 1,000 points but with just 919 Premier League goals scored they are behind both Spurs and Newcastle in the race to 1,000 goals. All-time Premier League table (top 10):
| P | W | D | L | F | A | Pts | |
| 1. Man Utd | 722 | 465 | 156 | 101 | 1431 | 615 | 1551 |
| 2. Arsenal | 722 | 391 | 191 | 140 | 1255 | 652 | 1364 |
| 3. Chelsea | 722 | 375 | 187 | 160 | 1194 | 684 | 1312 |
| 4. Liverpool | 723 | 360 | 183 | 180 | 1165 | 701 | 1263 |
| 5. Aston Villa | 723 | 271 | 220 | 232 | 919 | 857 | 1033 |
| 6. Tottenham | 722 | 271 | 189 | 262 | 988 | 961 | 1002 |
| 7. Everton | 722 | 250 | 204 | 268 | 906 | 930 | 954 |
| 8. Newcastle | 643 | 256 | 173 | 214 | 926 | 815 | 941 |
| 9. Blackburn | 647 | 252 | 172 | 223 | 867 | 812 | 928 |
| 10. West Ham | 605 | 200 | 156 | 249 | 710 | 858 | 756 |
COMING BACK INTO PLAY
Dear Martin, After reading last week's column about the incredible 4-4 draw between Newcastle and Arsenal, I came up with another question. Newcastle's comeback included two penalties, but how many Premier League teams have come back from a three-goal or more deficit to draw or win without a penalty or even a set piece? Andrew (Man United fan from Northern Ireland) MARTIN SAYS: Last week I told you that Newcastle had become the 13th team to come back from three or more goals down to draw or win a Premier League game. Well, just one week later we can add a 14th team to that list after West Ham fought back from 3-0 down to draw at West Brom. That comeback did not include a penalty, but two of the goals were scored from set-pieces. I have included details of all of the goals in the 14 comebacks below and while only four of them relied on a penalty to assist the comeback, all but one of the games relied on a goal from a set piece (a goal scored within a few touches of a corner, throw-in or free-kick). The only comeback from three goals down where all the goals were scored from open play was Liverpool's 3-3 draw at home to United in January 1994 when a Nigel Clough brace and a Neil Ruddock header saw them come from behind. I was there that day and it was a truly defining game for Sky Sports. I think they sold a lot of satellite dishes after that classic! Premier League comebacks - how the goals were scored: Dec 26, 1992: Sheff Wed 3-3 MAN UTD
Goals: McClair (header from, corner), McClair (header from open play), Cantona (shot from open play) Sep 1, 1993: Sheff Wed 3-3 NORWICH
Goals: Bowen (shot from corner), Ekoku (shot from open play), Sutton (shot from open play) Jan 4, 1994: LIVERPOOL 3-3 Man Utd
Goals: Clough (shot from open play), Clough (shot from open play), Ruddock (header from open play) Feb 22, 1995: Aston Villa 4-4 LEICESTER (from 4-1 down)
Goals: Roberts (header from open play), Lowe (shot from corner), Lowe (header from corner) Nov 8 1997: LEEDS 4-3 Derby
Goals: Wallace (shot from open play), Kewell (shot from corner), Hasselbaink (penalty), Bowyer (shot from open play) Sep 9, 1998: West Ham 3-4 WIMBLEDON
Goals: Gayle (header from open play), Euell (shot from open play), Gayle (shot from corner), Ekoku (header from open play) Aug 26, 2000: SOUTHAMPTON 3-3 Liverpool
Goals: Pahars (header from open play), El Khalej (header from throw-in), Pahars (shot from open play) Sep 6, 2000: Derby 3-3 MIDDLESBROUGH
Goals: Christie (header from corner), Strupar (header from corner), Christie (shot from throw-in) Sep 29, 2001: Tottenham 3-5 MAN UTD
Goals: Cole (header from open play), Blanc (header from corner), Van Nistelrooy (header from open play), Veron (shot from open play), Beckham (shot from open play) Oct 25, 2003: WOLVES 4-3 Leicester
Goals: Cameron (shot from open play), Cameron (penalty), Rae (header from open play), Camara (shot from open play) Jan 22, 2005: NORWICH 4-4 Middlesbrough
Goals: Ashton (shot from free-kick), Drury (header from open play), McKenzie (header from corner) Oct 1, 2007: TOTTENHAM 4-4 Aston Villa
Goals: Chimbonda (shot from open play), Keane (penalty), Kaboul (shot from open play) Feb 5, 2011: NEWCASTLE 4-4 Arsneal
Goals: Barton (penalty), Best (shot from open play), Barton (penalty), Tiote (shot from open play) Feb 12, 2011: West Brom 3-3 WEST HAM
Goals: Ba (shot from open play), Cole (header from free-kick), Ba (shot from corner)
THE MOST IN THE FEWEST
Hi Martin, love the column. My question concerns the Premier League's current top scorer Dimitar Berbatov. He has scored lots of goals but has not scored in a prolific number of games. My question is in terms of leading goalscorers for an entire season, who won the top scorer title by scoring in the fewest games? Simon Jones (Liverpool fan) MARTIN SAYS:Our friends at Opta have dug out these stats for you Simon and they make interesting reading. Dimitar Berbatov has already scored 19 Premier League goals this season, yet he has only scored in nine league games. That tally of 19 would have won him the Golden Boot in some seasons - and yet no player has ever been the Premier League's top scorer having netted in so few games. Anyway, the answer to your question is Michael Owen. He was the Premier League's top scorer with 18 goals in 1998/99 (sharing the award with Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Dwight Yorke) and yet he only scored in 12 individual games. The previous season, Chris Sutton took the award when his 18 goals came in just 13 games. In the very first Premier League season - a 42-game campaign remember - Teddy Sheringham was the top scorer after scoring in just 14 games (including the first live Premier League goal on Sky Sports - his last for Nottingham Forest). Here are the top scorers for each season and how many games they scored in: 1992/93: Teddy Sheringham: 22 goals in 14 different games
1993/94: Andy Cole: 34 goals in 25 different games
1994/95: Alan Shearer: 34 goals in 24 different games
1995/96: Alan Shearer: 31 goals in 20 different games
1996/97: Alan Shearer: 25 goals in 20 different games
1997/98: Dion Dublin: 18 goals in 14 different games, Michael Owen: 18 goals in 15 different games, Chris Sutton: 18 goals in 13 different games
1998/99: Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink: 18 goals in 16 different games, Michael Owen: 18 goals in 12 different games, Dwight Yorke: 18 goals in 14 different games
1999/00: Kevin Phillips: 30 goals in 20 different games
2000/01: Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink: 23 goals in 17 different games
2001/02: Thierry Henry: 24 goals in 17 different games
2002/03: Ruud van Nistelrooy: 25 goals in 18 different games
2003/04: Thierry Henry: 30 goals in 20 different games
2004/05: Thierry Henry: 25 goals in 16 different games
2005/06: Thierry Henry: 27 goals in 16 different games
2006/07: Didier Drogba: 20 goals in 16 different games
2007/08: Cristiano Ronaldo: 31 goals in 21 different games
2008/09: Nicolas Anelka: 19 goals in 15 different games
2009/10: Didier Drogba: 29 goals in 20 different games
FALLING FOUL
Hi Martin, great column as always. I have been thinking how strange it was to see Torres cooperating with John Terry on the same team after all the battles they've had in recent years. This led me to wonder which strikers are the most fouled in the Premier League? Thanks, Hamish Ballantyne (Chelsea fan) MARTIN SAYS: It's quite hard to define a 'striker' in this context as players like Ashley Young have played up front for much of this season, as has Clint Dempsey who started Monday's game against Chelsea in midfield, but moved up front by the end. So Opta have given us a list of players who have been fouled most in the Premier League season - and they are all attacking players who like to get on the ball. The most fouled player is Villa forward Young (63), just ahead of Fulham's Dempsey. When he was felled by David Luiz to win an injury-time penalty in the draw with Chelsea on Monday night, it was the 62nd time he has been fouled this season. Most fouled players 2010/11: 1. Ashley Young, Aston Villa (63)
2. Clint Dempsey, Fulham (62)
3. Kevin Doyle, Wolves (61)
4. Charlie Adam, Blackpool (60)
5. Jerome Thomas, West Brom (59)
6. Jonas Gutiérrez, Newcastle (57)
7. Kevin Davies, Bolton (55)
8. Stephen Pienaar, Everton (55)
9. El Hadji Diouf, Blackburn (52)
10. Cheik Tioté, Newcastle (46)