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David Dein on time-wasting: ‘It takes 10 seconds to score a goal – we need accuracy’

Former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein: “I’ve campaigned all my life in football for fairness, for accuracy and integrity in the game. Time-wasting is one area of the game that hasn’t had the attention it deserves. The good news is that now it is getting on the agenda."

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Image: The amount of football being played in the Premier League has hit an all-time low

In an exclusive interview with Sky Sports, former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein talks about his 10-year campaign to try to solve football's time-wasting problem...

"A goal can be scored in 10 seconds."

That is the starting point for former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein's 10-year-long campaign to tackle time-wasting in football.

David Dein
Image: Dein has called for football to have an independent time-keeper to help ease the pressure on referees

"How long do you think it takes to score a goal?," Dein told Sky Sports. "On average, people will say anywhere between 30 seconds and two minutes.

"I've got not one, but dozens of examples where a three or four-man move that ends with a goal can take just 10 seconds.

"I've campaigned all my life in football for fairness, for accuracy and integrity in the game. Time-wasting is one area of the game that really hasn't had the attention it deserves."

Dein is not wrong.

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The amount of football being played in the Premier League has hit an all-time low.

At an average Premier League game this season, the ball has been in play for less than 56 per cent of the match. That figure has been falling consistently over the past 10 years and with 2022/23 the lowest on record.

An example...

David Dein on Man Utd's stoppage-time equaliser at Chelsea in October 2022, where the goal celebration lasted one minute and 27 seconds:

"The fourth official put up six minutes of additional time. During that time Man Utd score and the celebration alone takes one minute and 27 seconds.

"So, what you’d expect is that the six minutes of added time would roll to seven minutes and 27 seconds.

"However, the clock gets to 96 minutes and the referee blows his whistle at 96 minutes and five seconds. So that is one minute, and 27 seconds lost to goal celebrations, and remember, it only takes 10 seconds to score a goal."

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England's top-flight competition is seeing more time lost to slow restarts, VAR checks, delaying tactics, substitutions, time-consuming injuries and feigning injury than ever, and officials are struggling to keep up with time-wasting.

However, Dein, who was vice-chairman of the FA, believes time-keeping is an area of the game where pressure can be taken away from the referee by bringing in an independent time-keeper, and he insists the officials would not object

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In the New Year's Eve clash between Wolves and Manchester United three second-half injury stoppages totalled more than seven minutes, but just five additional minutes were signalled

He said: "I did a survey with the referees where I asked them three questions. The first question was can you be accurate to the last 10 seconds? Answer, no.

"Second question, do you agree that when the fourth official puts up the board for additional time it is based on guesswork? Answer, our description would trend towards based on estimates, but we accept it is not accurate and very difficult to be consistent.

At the top level of the game, I know a lot of referees would be quite happy to have time-keeping taken over by an official in the stand.
Former Premier League referee Graham Poll in 2012

"The third question is, would you have any objection if time-keeping was not your responsibility? Answer, no. It would allow the referee to further concentrate on the game.

"For me, that is game, set and match. What more evidence would you want than that?"

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When Crystal Palace and Leeds met in October, two first-half incidents racked up more than seven minutes of stoppages alone - but only five minutes of time was added on

As previously mentioned, this is a topic Dein has done a lot of work on previously, pointing to a quote from Sir Alex Ferguson in 2012, saying after Man Utd's 3-2 defeat to Tottenham: "It is a flaw in the game that referees are still responsible for time-keeping."

However, time-wasting is now firmly back in the spotlight, especially after the World Cup where we saw FIFA's referees chief Pierluigi Collina's initiative to detail additional-time more accurately.

It led to the average match during last month's tournament exceeding 101 minutes and it was well-received in general, particularly by the fans.

"It was refreshing to see that there was eight, nine, 10, 11 and even 12 minutes added on at the end of games," Dein said.

"I asked the officials, why? They were honest enough to say that they believed insufficient time had been added on before. That was a breakthrough.

He added: "FIFA were pleased with how it went at the World Cup. It was a revelation. I didn't hear anyone complain about it.

Referee Said Martinez displays six minutes of injury time during the World Cup
Image: Referee Said Martinez displays six minutes of injury time during the World Cup

"What the World Cup has done has made this issue more obvious. It has brought it to the public's attention. People are seeing nine, 10, 11 minutes on the board and they haven't seen that before. People started to ask, why is that?

"FIFA would not have done that had there not been a problem beforehand. Clearly they must have said to the officials, 'let's add a minute and 30 seconds on for goal celebrations, the correct time for injuries, substitutions and VAR checks', and you are getting at least 10 minutes in every game, whereas the average before the World Cup was five minutes. Two for the first half and three for the second."

Should PL follow the World Cup's example?

David Dein on whether the Premier League should follow the World Cup's example and start adding on significantly more added time:

“I think that would be a start. That’s what should happen.

“But we are living in such an age of technology, why shouldn’t the public know about it? I want to see VAR improved, and it will be.

“When VAR gives a penalty decision, I want to know why it was a penalty. Let’s have that communication. I’d like it explained and I think the public deserve an explanation. that's the same for added time."

So, along with brining in an independent time-keeper, what are Dein's ideas to tackle football's time-wasting problem?

"It's all about accuracy and fairness," Dein said passionately. "I don't want every second added on, but what I do want is that when there is clear time-wasting, sufficient time is added on.

"Every time the ball goes out of play for a long injury, a substitution, a VAR check or a goal celebration, the clock stops.

It is a flaw in the game that referees are responsible for time-keeping.
Sir Alex Ferguson in 2012

"Will the game go on longer? Yes, I see an additional five minutes of pure time per game, but I'm not going to be so granular as to say that time is stopped for every throw-in or every corner kick. That would be getting too technical and over-engineering it.

"I'm just saying that for the four or five areas of the game where there is the most time wasted, let's at least add that on at the end of the game. It would take all the nonsense of time-wasting out of the game."

"Alternatively, you can literally have a clock that logs the time when time is wasted. Let the public know. It should not be a national secret!"

Remember the AFCON controversy...

The Africa Cup of Nations Group F match between Tunisia and Mali in 2022 was plunged into chaos after the full-time whistle was blown twice before the 90th minute.

The game itself was a tale of two penalties as Ibrahima Kone converted his attempt after a handball, but Tunisia's Wahbi Khazri could not follow suit as his effort was saved by Mali goalkeeper Ibrahima Mounkoro 13 minutes from time.

Zambia referee Janny Sikazwe then initially blew for the end of the game with 85 minutes on the clock, his timekeeping obviously letting him down. But after correcting himself he still ended the match in the 90th minute, despite a number of stoppages in the second half, including two VAR checks.

David Dein to Sky Sports:

"This was in an authorised FIFA competition. The referee blows up for full-time in the 85th minute. He had an excuse as he said he had heatstroke.

"But the Tunisia officials go nuts. World War Three breaks out and they all complain.

"Why does the referee have to be put under this pressure? I felt sorry for the referee on this occasion because he didn’t need to be put in this position.

"He does eventually restart the game but he compounds the error and after all the wasted time, he blows up at 89 minutes and 47 seconds."

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There were incredible scenes at the Africa Cup of Nations as the referee blew for full-time at 85 and 89 minutes in the game between Tunisia and Mali!

Just as with every new innovation that gets talked about for football, there will be sceptics.

Dein points to things like the 10-yard spray used by the referee, goal line technology and VAR as examples of why he is eager for the game to keep on improving.

He said: "The game has moved on, and credit to FIFA because they are the governing body, we introduced the 10-yard spray, which was an innovation in its time. That was nearly 10 years ago now and people said it would never be used. It's used in every game now and has cut out an area of cheating that was going on.

"We then had goal-line technology and people said it'd be used once or twice, but it is used at least 12 times every season. We saw it in action last week when Brentford's Yoane Wissa scored against Liverpool. And when Kalidou Koulibaly scored for Chelsea at Fulham.

"Then we get to VAR, and it has revolutionised the game because it has brought accuracy. It has taken out a lot of the contentious decisions in the game and it will get better and better. There will also be more communication down the line."

David Dein during the World Cup match between England and Iran
Image: David Dein during the World Cup match between England and Iran

Dein goes on to explain that in his experience, a campaign usually last between three to five years before getting a result.

This one has now been going on for 10 years, it is now starting to build momentum. So, what's next?

"The Premier League know about it," he said.

"I want to see change and I want to see progress, but I now want to see this rocket have a safe landing. Getting it on the agenda is the first thing and the fact people are now debating this shows it's becoming a live issue.

English referee Michael Oliver indicates to his wristwatch as he stops play and time for an injury to Saudi Arabia's Abdullah Madu at the World Cup in Qatar
Image: English referee Michael Oliver indicates to his wristwatch as he stops play and time for an injury to Saudi Arabia's Abdullah Madu at the World Cup in Qatar

"I've got no agenda," he added. "I'm not looking for a job or payment. I just want to see the game improve.

"The good news is that now it is getting on the agenda and the only thing I am campaigning for is a trial. Let's see it in action in a junior FIFA tournament. Use it in a U17 or U20 tournament and let's see how it works.

"I don't know how long it will take, but I'm hopeful we'll see that trial somewhere shortly, which would be a big move forward."

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